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  1. Thanks for the replies nice to see im not the only one to suffer this :-). Cobie I have the soft science book and will read, I haven't tried the no brakes drill as often feel I will get hit from behind . Maybe I should book into the novice group on a trackday and just slow it all down a little, my problem always seems to be going from the 70 % back to a 100 % and fallen beck into the same mistakes (habits). Interestingly thinking over this barrier I realised I almost overcame it in 2006 after doing level 2, then had a big off which took me a long time to get over. Like I say damn brain doog
  2. Came on here to bounce an issue about and found http://forums.superbikeschool.com/index.php?showtopic=1774 With some of what I'm experiencing, so here goes :-) I am in the UK have done level 4 several times and slowly making improvements, I am now at the point I know (mostly) when I am making mistakes and what they do. I recently was talking to a coach who turned up at a track day I was on and realised I was spending to much attention on my TP and not enough on my apex. That and I was looking for an exact TP and ones that's way to small, I have realised that stops me raising the entry speed as i am often hunting for the TP before quickly looking at the Apex and turning. So I spend a day on track and started making sure I hit every apex taking my attention away from the TP, that was no problem and I quickly had apex's down (ish). Sitting down with paper and a pen I realised I actually had the majority of TP down as well and without having to hunt for them. The corners felt more relaxed apart from two, these are blind corners where I you are still on the throttle before seeing the corner. Now when I am in the corner I am happy and can match most on speed, on the exit I am on the throttle early its just corner entry I have an issue with. I know my Turn point and am looking at the Apex with the TP still in my vision, I am turning where I want and pointing to the Apex. However I find I am still over braking / coming off the throttle too much. Following a friend I would say the entry speed is a couple miles an hour to slow. The faster the corner the worse it gets, also meaning I am getting hard on the throttle to try and make up for the speed. So I know where I am going wrong , I know where I should be looking and have reference points (mostly). In the corner I am happy, exiting the corner I am happy but no matter what I do I cant convince my brain to 'take the risk' and go in faster. Any thoughts on overcoming this barrier ? cheers doog
  3. I had a big fall in 06 and had big problems getting back anbd fully enjoying racing. For me the big problem I think came from not knowing what caused me to crash (I was KO and had no memory). I tried forcing making myself fast but no joy. I went back to the school (uk) and level 4 really helped me understand what I was doing wrong after the crash. 2 years later I made a big leep thanks to the UK guys, a very simple thing like I was getting on the throttle way to early in some corners trying to make up for low corner entry speed. That was enough to build my convidence and start to get back to where I was, I now find for the first session on a track I do the very simple basics. Throttte control, finding RP's then add the speed for the second session Now when I dont feel confitent or have problems on track as soon as I come back in I sit and think about what I was doing wrong, its always the basics stuff from level 1 and 2. Back for level 4 again this weekend, cant wait doog
  4. I always thought it was a mental thing, there doesn't seem to be a physical reason for it and its when he is pushing the limit. Maybe its a technique hes using to mentaly handle the corner. Seems he has very strict pre-race actions, sits next to his bike before the warm up does the warm up lap stops stands pulls at his arse all putting his head in 'Race mode'. All physical actions that prepare him mentally. Enter a corner too fast, I dont stick my leg out but shout in my helmet 'Look', stops me target fixating as it makes me look at the Apex :-)
  5. Cheers guys deffo got some stuff to work on both with revisiting the level 2 skills as well making sure im off the brakes. Not easy this going fast lark is it :-)
  6. At the moment im not really braking that hard and think im off the brakes when i turn the bike in. As i feel rushed im braking to much just before looking at the apex and getting off the brakes. Thinking about it I aint using the widescreen view at the end of a straight, im target fixing on the Turn point then doing the same with the Apex. After the bike is turnned I am looking through the corner and no longer hace the problem (except not having a high corner speed). Cheers for the feedback has deffo made me think my first diagnose of the problem was the wrong one and hopefully my two step is ok
  7. Cheers mate , I have all the books and just bought the DVD :-) maybe time to study them all again. After I did level 2 concentrating on the wide view and other drills my riding became a lot better, thinking about it my corner entry speed did improve (then I crashed big time putting me back to square one). I felt as though I had enough RP's but deffo something I can work on. Thinking a lap my vision does go very narrow and not relaxed as I target fix on both the TP then the APEX, I guess I need to built up RP's and work on the level 2 visualisation drills :-). I think my 'thinking' was looking at the apex just before my turn point caused the problem but it may be im not seeing the whole picture and concentrating (target fixing) on the turn point.
  8. Right my story quickly ..... After racing 3 years I did level 1 and then level 2 April last year at Silverstone UK. Raced at Donnington and had the best meeting ever (new fount confidence) . Raced at Cadwel Park before highsiding and ending up having the rest of the year off. Back doing trackdays last year and took a while to feel comfortable and sort my head out. Right this year just done a trackday and starting to get back into it but after sitting down and replaying laps in my head the problem I have and think I may always have had is the Two Step. Now at the class this worked fine but at a faster pace it feels rushed and I aint getting the corner entry speed I need. Now the problems I think I have are as follows. Approaching a corner I can find my turn point however I am then on the brakes before forcing myself to look at the apex. At this point I already have the sensation of speed (from looking at the TP) and am on the brakes so slow down more than I should. I can hit the apex no problem and the visualisation through the corner is fine. I feel i have to hit the exact TP so feel I have to look at it longer than I feel I should. How big a area for a TP should I be using , how exact would this need to be inch, foot, metre , couple of meters square ? Going from looking at the TP to looking at the Apex feels very rushed adding to the speed sensation. So I guess the question I am is asking is at what point to I go from looking at the TP to the Apex, at the moment I 'think' I am looking at the apex for 1 -2 seconds before turning the bike. This time is rushed as I am already on the brakes and am unable to enter at the speed my head says I should. I guess the fear of crashing is still high so I am looking at the basics to built confidence and I really need help with corner entry speed, is the answer look at the apex for longer and if so how long ? Cheers doog
  9. I noticed very similar, I started club racing and qickly decided i needed training. Level 1 I feel I learned so much but on the track there was little improvment. This year i did level2, to be honest the training didnt seem as relivant. Although i enjoyed the day I questioned spending the money. However the only track time I had planned was racing, Its then very hard to try things like the changing lines drill but i tried my best. With racing I was faster and the 2 step from level 1 ll came together :-) andworking on wide angle and target fixation allowed me to gain 6 secs a lap at donington (uk). Crashed at the next meeting but in practise i again took 6 secs off at Cadwell without trying for a hot lap. Anyway level 2 has made a big diff on my riding and i still havent managed to realy practise the changing lines, would need to book in a trackday before racing but sure that is the one that will make the biggest diff for me. Anyway as soon as i can ride a bike again will be booking lever 3
  10. Cheers Kevin, Great advice, will prob do level 2 start of nxt season I guess I thought level one would have a greater affect on my riding and I would be able to put it all into practise easyly. What is really annoying is that friends I race with and are quicker cant tell me there turn in point, and there lines change lap to lap. I know once I sort out my corner entry speed the rest will fall into place :-) doog
  11. Hi, I did level one at Silverstone March this year, it all made sense although im still having problems with the 2 step, and to be honest putting all the drills together. During racing this can somtimes go to the wall but most of it stays with me. With the 2 step it often feels rushed, I got some advice from Andy who runs the school in the UK and that has helped. However I would say my biggest problem is visulasation and sense of space whilst aproaching a corner. I have done a couple of track days away from the race pace to try and sort this and the 2 step out. Is getting a lot better but I still need to practise. My question here is really at what point to I satisfy my self that I am ready for level 2. Will level 2 help me bring it together or overwhelm me with even more drills to practise. As I dont feel im fully happy with the level 1 drills will doing level 2 leave me in a situation where im trying to do to much ! Any thoughts ? cheers doog
  12. Well .......... For the first time since taking the school I went back to a track i know well but just on a track day. It was wet for most of the day and I wa just concentrating on the drills learnt at level 1. The sun came out at the end of the day. I was lapping and having a good time not knowing I was been timed by a friend, I dont think i was pushing to hard as I still had a wet front tyre on ... the last session it was complely dry but didnt have time to change it. The laps felt good and it was all coming together .. nice and relaxed and using the 2 step the corner speed felt better. When I came back in I was told I had knocked 5 secs of my normal race pace AND THIS WITH A KNACKERED WET FRONT TYRE. Well happy, kept the faith and its starting to come together. doog
  13. Thanks JeF4y I take it you have found improvement since then ? I think the problem is even at practice (ACU race days) the pace is very hot. I think i am still rushing the corner and franticly trying to get the two step in and bike turned. I end up having a momnet and backing off that corner. Will take that on board and try and get some track time where i can ride at a slower pace thus practising the drills.
  14. Shoj Sorry mate new to the board and thought your name was Squid . The posting above was aimed at you mate. Where in Nottingham are you ... Donnington Park is quite close and they a race school from there. However talking to mates that have been there I would recommend that you to the superbike school at Rockingham as you will get more out of it. Its prob less than 2 hours drive from you. Any other help you need drop me a email doog_1998@yahoo.com
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