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Alpinestars Vs Dainese.

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Regarding these two brands -

 

1. Which offers better protection for the money? ( about a 1000 $ give or take )

 

2. Which holds up to use in hot and humid conditions without degrading? ( India )

 

3. Which of these fit better? I have heard Dainese is a premium fit and finish.

 

4. Which offers better armor and abrasion resistance? ( Both suits as well as gloves )

 

5. Have you seen people crash wearing them, and did they suffer friction burns when they crashed/injuries despite the leathers?

 

6. Did a particular brand cause them to sweat more than the others? Conversely, did they feel cold at night/winter?

 

7. Which brand enjoys a better reputation.Have you heard any horror stories regarding quality?

 

Thanks

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I started off in an entry level Alpinestars suit, which I was really happy with until I tried on an entry level Dainese cowhide suit, which I was really happy with until I tried on a Dainese dskin leather suit. I think you see the trend here. I'm up to 4 suits and avoid motorcycle stores like the plague. I picked the expensive route by picking the cheap suit because I did not know any better at the time. The cheaper suits seemed like a better deal because I had no idea what I was buying. You get what you pay for depending on the features you are looking for. As the price climbs you get suits that provide more protection and that are lighter weight and more comfortable to wear. Cheaper suits are going to be made out of thicker lower grade leather and will take more energy to move around in on the bike.

 

If your looking for great no nonsense advice on the features that matter the most to you I would suggest taking a look at Sportbike Track Gear. http://www.sportbiketrackgear.com/ Brian Van and his crew provide a LOT of information about their products in their videos even if you don't buy from them it's a great place to pick up information. They are also riders as well and do lots of track days. I saw Brian Van out at Barber in October. If you want a lot of data about crashing find a leather repair place and ask them. They see suits regularly crashed in and can give some objective advice free of brand preference.

 

As for gloves. My favorite gloves these days are Knox Armor Handroids. They provide really good protection and on top of that they look super cool. I have two sets and probably will be picking up a 3rd for the sheer fun of having color options.

 

I prefer Dainese stuff personally but mostly because they are an Italian company and I ride an Italian bike and I'm also part Italian myself. A bit biased to say the least. Another Italian company that the Superbike School seems to like is AGV sport. They seem to have good quality at more reasonable pricing than Dainese does.

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They say you learn something every day. I just did. They are as Italian as they can be. :)

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpinestars

 

To answer one of your questions about humidity. I wore my Dainese Stripes in the pouring rain with no ill effects. Just let it dry completely and it was fine afterwards.

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Some of the older AGV Sport leathers that the school has seem kinda bulky and the one time I wore them they weren't the most comfortable, though that was probably due to the amount of use they had received, HOWEVER some of the coaches have a new version of leathers from them, I think I saw Hotfoot wearing a set last time I was at SoW, and they look like a much better fit and finish suit,

 

I think at the high end of their respective lines, AStar and Dainese are going to be pretty much identical in terms of protection and quality, the only real difference between them I can see is that perhaps AStar offers apparel in the entry level segment while Dainese only offers apparel in the mid level and up segments

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I currently own a 2013 model AGVSport suit, Imola and like it very much. I have owned about 8 or 9 different suits over the years and they have been manufactured by atleast 5 different manufacturers. I would not buy a entry level suit again, but I do know riders that have them and like them.

 

But as far as your question on Alpinestar or Dianese, I havent owned either in more than 20 years, so the only feedback I can give you about them is what I have seen/heard from others.

 

Most everyone agrees buy the best suit you can afford and in the long run it will likely save you some money. But I have seen plenty of suits people have purchased for under $1000 that have held up well to multiple crashes, fit well (although some suit manufacturers suits fit some body types better than others) ventilate well, the trade off there is if they have lots of keprotec stretch panels and perforations they will be cold in the cool mornings and early/late season riding when it.

 

Personally I think limiting yourself to two brands isn't the best way to approach buying a suit.

Pick the features you "must have" and those you "like to have" then find the suits with those then compare prices or whatever other styling, name brand, criteria you have. Then perhaps do some price shopping, online and your local suppliers; choices and competition are good things.

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I am trying to research one or two brands at a time....and these two are the more popular.I too agree that it is expensive to buy cheap suits.In fact i am leaning towards custom as the way to go ( Spartan ) but there are some lesser known brands like Baranacle Bill's and everything which also make custom suits....hmmm.

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the two brands fit a bit differently. . so depends on your size/weight combo to determine whether a particular brand fits or not.. .

 

A* and Dainese are both consistent. you will get a certain level of performance/fit/protection based on price within their line. I would use 1000 as a starting point for them as anything below that is essentially their "entry level" suits and I always advocate staying away from anyone's entry level unless its really good.

 

Dainese and A* are "Italian" in name only. The brand is italian but essentially none of their suits are made there. They are all made in eastern europe (Ukraine) or lower end ones in China etc. Unless you are a pro racer, you won't find Dainese or A* made in italy anymore.

 

Key to look for many suits is the stitching. That generally falls apart faster in the cheaper made suits (or splits). The titanium shoulders etc that look cool aren't the most important items in the suit - its whether it'll hold together in an "off".

 

Many "custom" suits that aren't made directly at a particular facility are made in Pakistan. Pakistan has a LOT of suit manufacturers that manufacture out of there. THe list is very long and some are well made and some not so much. You can essentially dictate exactly what you want with many of these manufacturers.

Good luck

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Personally for me, I really loved the fit and comfort of the Z custom suit I once had. I never crash tested it yet Is aw others who had and they held up great with only scuffingto the surface. Of course every crash is a bit different so it is not very scientific testing but I think there suits are top notch.

Others that have faired well in crashes, a few of them through a half dozen or more crashes

Velocity sportgear

Route21

Perrini MI3

AGVSport

I have seen all these sustain multiple crashes without significant damage to suit or rider. How well the suit fits has more to do with this than the suit itself....to some extent

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Hey thanks man, i can access the site now!!

 

They do not list the thickness of the leather they use...and no prices listed either.

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When riding a sports bike actively, I think having something custom fitted will pay for itself many times unless you are lucky and are born with a "standard" body for a particular brand or model. If you ride a more upright bike on the road, you can usually get away with a less than stellar fit by going one size over. Although a loose fitting suit will offer less protection, comfort and the ability to put on more layers underneath often is more important for a touring rider than ultimate protection. On a track, however, I believe a suit that takes away comfort also steal your attention better used on other things. Plus you are more likely to test the protection ability of your suit, so this also must be taken into the equation.

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I know this thread was mainly about suits but I do have to say the Alpinestars boots have been AMAZING, comfortable and great fit and really protective.

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