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The fork levels should be fine as everything was installed by a Ohlins approved technician, I think its mainly a combination of me, the settings being too hard and cold oil. Just keen to get the bike back out again.

Thanks for the advice, I'm not too bad with the concepts of suspension tuning I guess its putting it into practice at the track and not trying to "get my monies worth and pull in during a session and make adjustments. A hot day would probably been good to really gauge where the current setup is at. I have the zip ties on and they're not using all the travel. I really need to get some heat into the oil first before I try and set it up so I'm going to have to wait till I'm at the track next and get the local suspension guru to help as well. Thanks

Hi khp, No too fussed on the crash bit sore a few says later but nothing broken:) footpeg snapped at the bolt so new bolt, some filing of the footpeg, tape for the fairings and back on track The main issues that I'm having is mid corner and exit the front feels like its walking away even when applying throttle control. Like you said I think too stiff on the front, the spring is about right as I'm 87kg and with gear about 95kg. I have 85 mm of oil in the forks. So if I did the stock settings I should go softer by a click or 2? to take in account the harder spring? The rear came around because I thought the line had dried out and decided to use my dry line, getting on the gas to hard tried to back off the throttle slightly to keep it spinning and controlled, thought I had control then the rear came around and the sliding began. My fault nothing to do with the bike

Hi All, I haven't been on for a while, so I hope everyone's doing ok... To the question...... I just had all the internals replaced to Ohlin's on forks and shock revalved, new springs, shock spring etc... SAG was set in shop, on a cold bike mind you. I did a track day on Friday and I hate it no matter what I did the bike feels like . If I set the oem settings they will be out because the springs are both stiffer, front Ohlin's 4744-10 and rear spring 1115N. There wasn't any suspension guys there just a few people that tried to help. Anyway after 2 sessions, in pouring rain, the back end came around on me and I took a closer inspection of the track surface. I was riding at about 60%. I repaired the broken bits and went out again when it dried up, after returning the settings to the ones the suspension guy applied thinking it was just the wet and poor throttle control, but no the bike still felt horrible and left me with no confidence. Has anyone had a similar (not crashing though) experience after new suspension? Thanks in advance Dylan

lack of good reference points, choosing bad lines, left hand double apex turns are the main contenders

Hey Ian, welcome and I've watched your build on netrider, http://www.netrider.net.au/forums/showthread.php?t=128927, this onw has pics,

Thanks Eirik, good advice. I can't trailer my bike down there (about 1.5 hrs drive) so I can see the ride home will be a hard slog, but I will put a few mates that have trailers on notice just in case! If you have a car I would suggest to definately trailer the bike there, you can rent one for the day, trailer. Just in case you happen to slide down the road and that you will be very tired after a doing level 1

I have the 190/50's and I would never go that profile again at the track. IMO 180/55 would be the go if they fit, ebay your 190's

Crash have you done Level 1 yet?

Mugget I'm assuming your on about Queensland raceway turns 5/6? From some footage I just had a look at I would say One steering input- check the throttle slightly as you intentionally run a little wide- get on the gas as you pick the bike up out of the corner.

I have no idea what your statement means

what track what corners and do you have a link to any track day/racing footage?

Great clip

Hot pressures are generally 2 psi more than cold. But I must note: Q2 and warmers? that sounds like you are ready to move up to the D211GPA. I will be lecturing at the NESBA event at Road Atlanta this weekend April 23-24. Both Saturday and Sunday at lunch. Come sit in on the lecture, there is a lot to be learned. We also like to bust tire myths and urban legends. Come attend. Hi Steve, I have been running the Q2, (190/50) with warmers for the last 3 track sessions, and have been running them hot @ 35psi, and after reading your post above I guess they should have been between 30-32 hot? Would this may have lead to me feeling like my bike was 'unstable' really touchy and like I'm riding on glass. Not sure if thats a good description Dylan Not following you on this one. He said 32 cold front and rear but that on-the-warmer temps are generally 2 psi more. So, that would be 34 psi F&R on the warmers. Pretty close to the 35 you're running. Based on his comments, I was going to try 34 F&R on the warmers. Interested to see the reply to this. I assumed he was talking to the bloke who doesnt use warmers? If I'm running 35 hot of the warmers wouldnt I get more PSI from being on track? In my last trackday session I did drop the pressure, on the rear, from 35 to 31 of the warmer and it felt heaps better. Just thinking I should've done the same on the front too. I will be going to the 211 soon not much left on the Q2's. I'm also going to change to a 190/55 rather than the 190/50 as this would provide a bigger contact patch when leaned over at speed.

Hot pressures are generally 2 psi more than cold. But I must note: Q2 and warmers? that sounds like you are ready to move up to the D211GPA. I will be lecturing at the NESBA event at Road Atlanta this weekend April 23-24. Both Saturday and Sunday at lunch. Come sit in on the lecture, there is a lot to be learned. We also like to bust tire myths and urban legends. Come attend. Hi Steve, I have been running the Q2, (190/50) with warmers for the last 3 track sessions, and have been running them hot @ 35psi, and after reading your post above I guess they should have been between 30-32 hot? Would this may have lead to me feeling like my bike was 'unstable' really touchy and like I'm riding on glass. Not sure if thats a good description Dylan

Q2's are awesome. Use warmers it saves warming up tyres and wasting your sessions 2 laps warm up 6 sessions thats 12 laps wasted

You cant... other wise your indie foot would get bored

Not sure due to being a right-handed rider. I hang off easier to left as a right-hand person. However, when another student in bike school said not as smooth on right side lean. Keith suggested another way of twisting the throttle for us to try (in his words, like holding a screw driver)and it makes a big difference in leaning. Some how the way of holding the throttle can be different for each side. Interesting to find out whether the left-handed rider will lean easier on the right side. Any left-handed rider to tell us? Disagree on that point Im right handed and find left handers harder than right.

No worries glad to get a field assist

you are excused

I have a similar problem but with left handers mainly one particular corner, I'm finding that the faster I go the better and more comfortable Im feeling about it. Still have alot of work on my left handers to go...that reminds me I must get back to Phillip Island soon

Stevo, Im confused to your question as well. The title says reduce tyre wear. If the tyre is warm then it wont cold tear and you will have longer life out of your tyre, you can acheive greater lean angles from the first lap and you can stay in front of the slow guys. If your going to the front of the group on pit call to eventually lap the slow riders I think it may be time for you to step up a level, seeing as your thinking about warmers now. When the pit call goes out and you sit there for 5 minutes waiting for everyone else to come out would your tyres have lost heat, especially on a cold day? Sort of defeats the purpose of warming the tyres in the first place. Personally I would wait till most riders are out there waiting before I get the warmers off. 30 secs won't make much difference, 5 minutes will. Guess it wont matter as much on really hot days. I look at it this way 6-8 x 15-20 minute sessions on an average track day? 2-3 laps warm up per session thats between 12-24 laps warming up each track day, at least with the warmers on you dont have to waste a full session each day warming up. I think thats what you were getting at, if not apologies Dylan

Yes, it is possible. Takes a little more practice, than a single shift, though. As an example, you go from 6th to 2nd gear at the end of the 'flight straight' at the Scandinavian Raceway Anderstorp, and going down 2 gears at the time is not unusual there. Kai I've known good riders that have done it on modern bikes, but i've also heard Keith talk about letting the clutch out between each shift. I've personally have had the bike go down 0 gears, and also more than one at a time, so letting the clutch out between each shift would be considered the norm, so you know exactly what you have. Also, have any of you seen the footage in the Twist 2 DVD, I think they recorded Dylan doing it in a few tenths of a second (maybe even more than one gear...). Well, guess I need to pop that DVD in, unless someone else can chime in on that. CF Just started trying clutchless down shifts and they seem pretty easy to do on the road must try on track now

Right, so here is the latest: Just went and got with Will, got a better idea of what he has on his plate currently. We could crank up the mechanic section, but I don't want to do it when he has pretty busy schedule, and it was busier than I thought. When we release that section he wants to be able to get to it, so looks like it will be a few more weeks. Part of this was he and I didn't get our heads together as fully as we should have, part is seeing the result from the tire section, we want to make sure we can get the answers to you guys...so, get your questions ready, we will kick this off at the beginning of Feb. Yes, you can send me the hate mail/pm's I can take it. CF I'm sure we can wait Cobie, my concern is that you just got with Will, friendly working environment in the US eh?

We dont get those special treats like BS bikes etc in Australia wonder if it may happen? Does the UK school have anything similar ?, or are these extras just a USA thing?