Yes, you're right. I meant to say the turn point instead of the apex. Too much turkey for Thanksgiving and Christmas has me forgetting. I thought my throttle roll on was after the turn point. I may need a clarification from what I've seen on tv. The racers look like they are slowing down through the turnpoint while they are quickly initiating there lean and then speeding up as they pass the midpoint of the turn. Will try to get the dvd as well. Tnx!!