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  1. thanks, steve. the sizes available for the q2 is what really prompted my question. i'm pretty sure that steve will tell you to run the 190/55. i've got a feeling that the only reason they offer the 180 is for dealers or shops that will NOT install a 190 tire on a bike that the manufacturer calls for a 180. i'm interested to see what steve has to say about this. Tom, See Dunlop's fitment chart for the Q2 here: http://www.dunlopmot...tire.asp?id=108 As you can see the Q2 180/55 and the 190/55 will fit both a 5.5x17 and 6.0x17 rims (600,750 and 1000's). Forget the 190/50x17 Q2 for performance riding, its a flatter center and better suited for regular urban street riding and not aggressive cornering. Q2 on a 600, I would start with the 180/55. Since it will be closest to your stock chassis settings. If you are willing to make small chassis adjustments (and looking for a future in track riding or racing), I would go with the 190/55. The 190/55 Q2 is the same width and height as the 190/55 D211GPA race tire, thus making the transition easier from Q2 to D211GPA. Both are good choices in the Q2 for track days. steve, i'm definitely going with the 190/55. i'm still on the fence with regard to the q2 or the 211 gpa. of course i want the best tire for little money and i want it to last forever...lol...i know there are a lot of variables involved but how many track days can i expect to get out of the q2's or the 211gpa's? i do have a spare set of wheels so i am tempted to try both. if the life expectancy is fairly close i will just go with the 211's. would one tire be better than the other for the colder temps at the beginning and end of the season verses the heat of the middle of summer? what chassis adjustments would you recommend for the 190/55? thanks again for being available here for us to pick your brain. i really appreciate it. tom Tom, Its really hard to tell you exactly how many days you would get from each tire. there are just to many variables. It is like asking someone how long it takes to clean their room. The best thing to do is try it and compare. I know that may not help you when you might be on a budget, but if you are going to play this game, you are going to use tires. So try both and gauge the tire usage for yourself, on your bike, with your riding style and your suspension settings. Only then will you know which is best for you. On you question for what to change on the 190/55. let me ask which tire are you going from and which are you going to. Give me that data and I will talk about how to change the ride height in another thread. ha ha, i got a good chuckle from the cleaning your room analogy. i hear what you're saying. as far as tires, i'm coming from michelin pilot power 2ct in the 120/70, 180/55 flavor. i was able to get 8 days out of them at about 1k track miles. see my first post for the tracks i rode. the front still has quite a bit of rubber on it but the rear is getting close to the wear bars on the edges. going to the q2 and or 211gpa in the 190/55.
  2. I am a little confused. Correct me if I read your question wrong. But why would you change your rims? 2008 R6 (along with most every 600cc bike since the late 90's) has a 5.5x17 rear rim. There is no need to change to a different size rim. Please clarify. Also please clarify which D211 you speak of. D211GPA or D211GP. see this post for clarification: http://forums.superb...indpost&p=20491 steve, with regard to the rims, i read it as having a spare set of rims with the 211's mounted up for the track. i'm guessing that he's talking about having a set of q2's mounted up for street riding and then switching to wheels with the 211's mounted up for track riding?
  3. good question, i'm interested to see what steve has to say about this as well.
  4. thanks, steve. the sizes available for the q2 is what really prompted my question. i'm pretty sure that steve will tell you to run the 190/55. i've got a feeling that the only reason they offer the 180 is for dealers or shops that will NOT install a 190 tire on a bike that the manufacturer calls for a 180. i'm interested to see what steve has to say about this. Tom, See Dunlop's fitment chart for the Q2 here: http://www.dunlopmot...tire.asp?id=108 As you can see the Q2 180/55 and the 190/55 will fit both a 5.5x17 and 6.0x17 rims (600,750 and 1000's). Forget the 190/50x17 Q2 for performance riding, its a flatter center and better suited for regular urban street riding and not aggressive cornering. Q2 on a 600, I would start with the 180/55. Since it will be closest to your stock chassis settings. If you are willing to make small chassis adjustments (and looking for a future in track riding or racing), I would go with the 190/55. The 190/55 Q2 is the same width and height as the 190/55 D211GPA race tire, thus making the transition easier from Q2 to D211GPA. Both are good choices in the Q2 for track days. steve, i'm definitely going with the 190/55. i'm still on the fence with regard to the q2 or the 211 gpa. of course i want the best tire for little money and i want it to last forever...lol...i know there are a lot of variables involved but how many track days can i expect to get out of the q2's or the 211gpa's? i do have a spare set of wheels so i am tempted to try both. if the life expectancy is fairly close i will just go with the 211's. would one tire be better than the other for the colder temps at the beginning and end of the season verses the heat of the middle of summer? what chassis adjustments would you recommend for the 190/55? thanks again for being available here for us to pick your brain. i really appreciate it. tom
  5. steve, thanks for boiling all this down for us. this is really some good stuff. your knowledge and reputation really makes this a no brainer for me. i'm leaning towards the 211gpa. i'm thinking the q2's would give me roughly the same amount of track days as the 2ct's i ran. i understand that there are a lot of factors involved but can i expect the same longevity from the 211gpa's if track conditions and riding style were equal? thanks, tom
  6. thanks, steve. the sizes available for the q2 is what really prompted my question. i'm pretty sure that steve will tell you to run the 190/55. i've got a feeling that the only reason they offer the 180 is for dealers or shops that will NOT install a 190 tire on a bike that the manufacturer calls for a 180. i'm interested to see what steve has to say about this. also, if you're heading down south at all for a track day next season, let me know and maybe we can ride together. i will be trying to do vir as much as possible and i plan on heading back to road atlanta too. another on my to do list is summit point, which probably isn't TOO far for you. which track day orgs. do you ride with?
  7. hi all, new to the forum and fairly new to track days. i will start with a little background. i have been riding on the street for 20+ years. i did my first track day with css in august at vir after the ama race. since then i've done several more with nesba. i have a total of 8 days under my belt. vir-north with css, vir-full with nesba, 3 consecutive days at road atlanta with nesba, 2 days at barber with nesba and 1 day at cmp with stt. needless to say i'm hooked. i don't even enjoy riding on the street anymore. i'm pretty smooth and consistent on the track. i've got good throttle control. i'm still working on my braking but my main focus on the track is body position. i have no problem getting my butt off the seat but i have a bad habit of counteracting my hanging off with my upper body. each outing gets a little better. i can't wait for next season to get back out there to continue working on my skills. my bike is an 07 zx6r. stock tires are 120/70 front and 180/55 rear. i'm running michelin pilot power 2ct's. i have no complaints whatsoever with the tires but i keep hearing how great the dunlop q2's are. a LOT of the members and control riders on the nesba boards praise the q2's. after reading some of steve's comments in the other tire threads i feel like i should go with the 211gpa's but the price tag on the q2's make them very attractive. my pace is in the upper end of b group or a slow i group with nesba. the only lap times i have would be from road atlanta. my best times that i recorded were 1:50. the bike has a built in lap timer but i find it too distracting to use. my main question is, should i go with a 180/55 or a 190/55? a LOT of guys with much more experience than me recommend the 190/55. i'm just wondering what steve's thoughts on this are. feedback from anyone else is welcome too. my other question is q2's or 211gpa's? i've heard if you don't have warmers you should go with the q2's but it seems like that isn't the case after reading through the tire warmer thread. my wallet tells me to go with the q2's. i got 8 days out of the 2ct's and they still aren't down to the wear bars. i could probably get a few more days out of them but i don't want to push my luck either. should i expect to get the same life out of the q2's or the 211gpa's? i understand that the faster i get the more my tires will suffer. also, i'm still on the stock suspension. i have my sag properly set and it's working very well for me so far. my tires are showing very good wear. sorry for the long post. thanks in advance for the replies, tom
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