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    1. ... Makes your line through the corner as straight as possible.
    2. ... does continuing to accelerate make sense?
    3. ... The proper solution at that point is to MAKE A NEW TURN.
    Benny

     

    Hey, I could use some help integrating this with my CSS schooling and TOTW study.

    These 3 points sound new and different to me. I'm not sure why. Perhaps this illustrates a gap in my understanding?

    Justin

  1. ... it's not saying that a steering input is needed to hold the bike in the turn, it's saying that steering input it's needed to turn the bike (it's describing the initial steering

    once you've made your steering input, then when you're holding the bike in a corner, is your inside arm relaxed enough to do the chicken-flap?

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  2. Mugget

     

    That does make sense. The image gives me something to bear in mind.

     

    It would also seem to echo Hotfoot and FajitaDave in the recent Quantum Mechanics thread:

     

    Like hotfoot said the suspension works much more efficiently when the bike is as close as possible to vertical. I think another potential advantage of using body position is tire wear ...

     

    Thanks

     

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    1. You have less chance of saving a potential highside if you're hanging off. The best position to be in to save a highside would actually be to lean out a bit because you have better leverage and you can also counter the forces by throwing yourself inward, in the opposite direction of where the bike is heading. Finally, if you do highside, you will fly shorter and lower from a leaning out position compared to a racing hanging off position.
    2. It is not something I've come up with, that hanging off reduce your chance of saving highsides and also will throw you further up and away; it comes from people like Kenny Roberts Sr., Kevin Cameron and several others. Look at MX; they lean the bikes in and their bodies out. If it was easier to control the bike hanging off, wouldn't they do so?

    1. Eirik, can you help me understand #1? Esp the "counter the forces by throwing yourself inward" part ...
    2. Where can that MOTORRAD article be found?
    3. Anyone out there in radioland: I need help with #2 as well. How does this Roberts/Cameron technique relate to Twist on the drawbacks of "push-it-under" steering?

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  3. i was surprised to see this lowsiding thread contain as much talk of braking as it does

     

    nonetheless, all this talk of braking, trailbraking, charging has me fairly baffled ... clearly you guys have done far more experimenting than I have ... and have gotten past certain barriers

     

    so now i'm trying to fit it all into my Twist homework...

     

    how do we integrate / reconcile this thread with Twist2? (see the attached extracts from T2)

     

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  4. DiD

     

    can you help me understand:

     

    I've had to redefine it because in common parlance it it racing in, being hard on the brakes, changing down quickly and loading up the front. But it's not a speed thing, it's technique thing. If that's what you do, albeit slowly, then you're charging a corner!

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    I still think i'm onto something here with charging corners though. It's not a speed issue and I don't think it's measured by speed or weight transfer - it's a technique / habit

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  5. Well done.

    To your last paragraph I wonder about appending the question "why do these things?"

    Strikes me as it did OzBlade that your careful analysis yields your own answers

    All of which being the long way round to ask:

     

    how coast /throttle /speed relate to your observation on weight transfer midcorner?

     

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  6. your comments about leverage and lunging were helpful in my experiments this week.

    now it actually feels really cool to weight the outside peg

    -- like totally having a stabilizing platform against which to push and support my countersteering!

    between that and tank grip / lock on, my riding feels totally different

    -- like an integrated system instead of random body bits flying about.

    once it gets up to 80 degrees i'm going to put on the snakeskin TechSpecs tankpads.

    -- I'm looking forward to improving the lock onto the tank.

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  7. I think I failed to provide context for my question:

     

    Tw2, Chapter 19 ... criss-cross ... i get lock-on, strength, stability ... I just can't get my head around:

     

    why the outside peg and not the inside one for stability and strength?

     

    i did try the countersteer + outside peg today and it just felt unnerving

     

    I feel like i'm on the edge of getting it, but that some new perspective might get me there for real.

     

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