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I have read all the books, have all the CD's and have taken levels 1 through 3. I know the answer to "When do you roll the throttle back on while cornering" is "as soon as you can" BUT the closer I watch and ride behind the FAST guys it seems a question has come up....the fast guys trailbrake almost all the way to the apex....this means the are braking while shifting,while doing the quick turn, and continueing to brake until milliseconds before the hardest lean angle(apex) and seem to get back on the gas AT the apex point to point and shoot out of the turn. The way I have been doing it is (because I thought it was the right way - and BTW I am one of the quicker riders so I am comfortable at speed) ....WOT to brake point, roll off throttle, brake /shift (blip thottle) keeping the brake on to turn in point -NOW my turn in point IS ALWAYS my end of braking point, I LIGHTLY roll on a little throttle AS I DO MY QUICK TURN and keep very light, slightly increasing thottle to apex where I try to quickly increase throttle after apex back to WOT. Would a more correct technique be to brake to the turn in point,ease off brake (or brake further into turn) and wait until I am close to apex to get back on gas harder, it seems my current method has me either picking up speed after my turn in point as I get closer to apex (not good) or stuck on the gas through much of the first half of the turn (on the gas but not increasing). Either way it seems that not getting back on the gas to the apex means more weight on the front tire and the front suspension more loaded (keeping the forks in the working range is why I throttle back on at turn in) or even more so braking to the apex means even MORE weight on the front end until the apex (asking for lowside). It just doesnt feel right to accelerate TO the apex like I am currently doing now. Could some of the staff chime in here...I have asked this question to other riders I know and keep getting different advice. THANKS!

Highway 25 very near the track is a popular motorcycle road...it has its own motorcycle bar/restaraunt...called 29 dreams. Do a search on the internet or www.29dreams.com . I will be taking level four at Barbers this time. Chris

I am signed up for the two day camp at Barber, I want to ride my own R6 instead of the schools 636. I DO want to ride the slide bike etc. but would greatly prefer to ride my own bike during the school. Can I do this?

Cool, I am trying to picture what this machine would look like, can anyone describe how it works or functions? Is it something I can rig up at home to practice? Any pics?

After finishing Twist two for about the tenth time, I noticed there wasnt much covered in the area of shifting...specifically, do you recommend NEVER shifting in a turn while leaned over, and when you do, is there a "Code" way to do it? I am having problems smoothly downshifting coming into turns (even when I slow down to try to practice) I have the tendency to left off the brake when I blip the throttle and let out the clutch (clutch comes out brake goes off), it is worse when I have two or more gears to downshift. I also am scared to downshift in transition turns when there isnt much rooom between a left and a right because if I blow the shift I will hop the rear tire. I have been trying to practice at track days but I cant seem to make progress. Any words of wisdom? BTW...When should I let the clutch out all the way after the final shift, I think all shifting should be done (clutch fully engaged) before you enter (start) a turn, but I have been trying to watch the Pro AMA guys let out the clutch and they mostly seem to feed the clutch AND brake all the way to the APEX of the turn...this seems to go against other principles of cornering?Is this how the pro guys make the rear end come around to square up a entrance to a corner? I am signed up for level two and three at Barber (2 day camp) but would like to work on this before the school so time isnt wasted.

I am having the EXACT smae problem you are on a different bike, I have asked several pro riders your question all with different responses. This may not appy to you if you are at max braking the entire time but if not......Try braking a little harder in the initail braking action and then brake less before you start your shifting pattern, that way less you are less hurried in shifiting and braking. If you are like me you will say attention is not the problem, but time has a way of compressing/ decompressing time so less attention on late braking might mean you can shift faster than you realize because you have more "time" to focus on the shifting that you thought you had, making quickier shifts possible in the same amount of time.

Speaking of body position, Why do people (yes, I am talking about myself) have "good" sides" and bad sides. I am MUCH more comfortable hanging off in left hand turns vs. right hand turns. When I have steep lean angles to the right, I feel like I am "falling" off of the bike and working more on that than proper cornering technique?

So , what was the correct answer?

Thanks for taking the time to reply, some this I knew, some of this I hadnt thought about, When I take my next levels at CSS in Sept at Barber,I am going to ask for specific instruction in this area.

Before I attend the two day camp at Barbers for level two and three, I am having trouble on the track with smooth downshifts. Everything is fine when I am not in a hurry, but when my pace increases (still not one of the real fast guys) on my 02 R6, I have rear wheel hop and chatter from releasing the clutch. I get into the corner hard on the brakes at say 14,500 rpm and pull in the clutch and downshift and left off the cltuch..problem is I dont have time to slowwwwwly release the clutch to prevent rear wheel hop and chatter and I try to blip the throttle but I end up easing off the brakes as I blip. I try to get ALL my shifting including letting the clutch 100% out before I start into the turn because my clutch engagement is so rough I am scared it will cause my rear wheel to break loose even if it doesnt chatter or hop. I have tried to practice but it just doent seem to be getting me anywhere. I hate to have to shift in longer turns because of the problem. Is there a example of practice techniques that could be shared with me? I am ready to got out and buy a $1500 slipper clutch at this point. I could shave ten seconds off my laps times if I could cure this! Thanks for any help!