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Stuman, no sales job required as I am already sold on the value of the school. My budget is tight after two years of contractor rate cuts so I have to save my pennies - I am thinking that the 2 day camp is the best way to go. Rman, yes I was asking about how you "feel" really to get a gauge of weather the stuff I'm experiencing is common - if it's common the school will have figured out ways to deal with it. If the things I experience are unique or even rare the school would likely not spend time dealing with it. Guys I ride with often talk as though they always practice standard throttle control - still manage to high-side at the track sometimes though - never feel like they are over their head and can get faster by simply spending more time at the track. I tend to think that thinking about the skills and barriers and then practicing with a purpose is more productive. I taught computer stuff for many years and found over and over that in just hours we could accomplish what might take weeks of self study or months of undirected experience in a field. Part of the reason we could be effective was because many people will have the same stumbling blocks and we could find different ways of addressing those problems and getting to the ah-ha quicker. I am sure they see the same thing at the Superbike School.

Hey All, I was/am having some trouble with the dreaded roll-off SR and really looking for a solution. Anyway, while doing the two-step drill I noticed that if I keep my attention out and through the turn I don't get freaked out as much about in too fast, lean angle, going wide etc. And I further noticed that when I don't get freaked about those things, they don't happen. All old news to readers of TOTW2. Finally the question: Do you have the feeling that you are neglecting the current turn when you are keeping your attention out? I know I have already surveyed the current turn and I know that I should just kind of monitor with my peripheral vision but I feel like I may be missing something important right in front of me. Another question: Do you also feel less inclined to roll out when you are looking through the turn? I know I do and I think it is because I feel more confident about my eventual destination. One more: I feel like it takes alot of concentration to keep my attention out - I will slip back into looking directly in front of the bike - espescially when tired. Is this common? Thanks, Mike

Hey all, I reread the section dealing with pivot steering a few days ago and set out to work on that along with improving my steering rate - a constant goal. In the book Keith relates a story of a friend that was having difficulty with pivot steering and said that he (Keith) realized that pivot steering was "Double Backward" which is true if you're thinking about leaning to turn and espescially if you subscribe to the "weight the inside peg" method of turning. As I was practicing it occurred to me that weighting the outside peg and leading with the inside arm felt very natural and familiar - from running! When you are running and want to change direction quickly you plant your outside foot and lead with your inside arm. This realization made pivot steering immediately comfortable and natural which allowed me to do it without spending so much of my attention on it. So if you're having trouble getting comfortable with the idea of weighting the outside peg this way of thinking about it may be helpful to you.

You'll have to change your mind if you want me to argue with you. I know that body steering is not an efficient way of turning the bike and yes as the speed goes up it becomes even less so. I was curious about the argument though. Apparently there are people who feel that body steering is useful at high speeds and I would agree with you that attention and effort should be spent on counter steering as it actually turns the bike at any speed. Same for weighting inside pegs and such - it just doesn't seem to do enough to be worth thinking about espescially at the expense of say throttle control. Something else: since reading TOTW2 I have been working on quicker steering, as my turn rate increases, I find that I need so little lean angle on the street that turns are not nearly as exciting. I end up using later turn entry points (making the turn sharper than required) just to keep the juice flowing while not running dangerously high speeds for the street. Is there somewhere on the net that describes the various drills used in Levels I-IV? I would like to take the courses but the finances are just not there at this time. I certainly don't have the finances to quaff a Chateau La'Feit. But I can sometimes be drawn into a beer swilling BS session. I do find that a little cogitation goes a long way when combined with some experimentation.

Hey All, I have been lurking in the cornering forum for awhile now and have seen several references to the No Bs bike and some conflicting opinions on whether a person can change the direction of the bike without handle-bar input (counter-steering.) Anyway, the last couple of days I have been experimenting with Body Steering and find that I can indeed change direction to a reasonable degree without handlebar input. Coming down a hill with the bike slowing - because my hands are off the bars - I am able to turn the bike by leaning and I can even weave proving that the steering is not an artifact of an earlier steering input. So am I missing the point of the Body Steering discussions? Also, regarding Countersteering at low speeds, I have found through careful observation that even at very low speeds direction changes are coming from very subtle coutersteering inputs - so it seems that there is not a speed below which steering changes. Mike