03tlrmo Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 I currently own a tlr I have just finished another day in the canyon. As I was turning there was a couple of times when I slid my rear while at one point it was knid of cool the other is that it wasn't intended and happened before the apex instead of after with the throttle. I was wondering could it be because I have 190 a guy at the honda shop told my freind that 180 or 185 was a better cornering tire being that the center was thinner and the side had more angled traction through the turn. I know my tires weren't cold I had a long ride there of srcub city cause when I get there it's all business. If it matters I'm running Michelen Pilots. Oh when I get back on the gas it grabs and I'm gone it's just a weird feeling making sure I have the best tire for saftey reasons to don't want to lose it on a corner in cliff if ya know what I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunner Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 http://www.sportrider.com/tech/tires/146_0206_size/ That should answer your questions about the tire size. Personally, I'd be looking for other reasons as to why you feel the tyre slide. Are you using the rear brake? Is it from engine braking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kane Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 I ignored my Pilot Race tires sliding in the corners for three turns before they let me off in turn four. It was my third track session and my fourth lap so they were up to to temperature...they just didn't have any grip left. Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03tlrmo Posted April 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 I went to the web site (and got some cool wallpapers!) and it helped but created another. Maybe it's stupid of me but what size rim would my bike come with 5.5" or 6"? I tried finding the info but couldn't find anything. I know there stock rims does it say on the rim? The article said that it will change the curve of the tire if a 190 is on anything smaller than a 6" rim. so do you think dunlops are better my freind switched to the d208 and loves it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunner Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 They come standard with a 6" rim so the 190 is the right size http://www.dunlopmotorcycle.com/fitmentguide.asp I done a track session on the 208's on a tiumph 600 and they felt good as far as feeback goes - could push the bike to traction limits though as I only had 1 session and it wasn't my bike experience tells me though, that the dunlops will squirm a fair bit before they let go, which for alot of people, is a good thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunner Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 They come standard with a 6" rim so the 190 is the right size http://www.dunlopmotorcycle.com/fitmentguide.asp I've done a track session on the 208's on a tiumph 600 and they felt good as far as feeback goes - couldn't push the bike to traction limits though as I only had 1 session and it wasn't my bike experience tells me though, that the dunlops will squirm a fair bit before they let go, which for alot of people, is a good thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03tlrmo Posted April 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Thanks alot I love this place, can't wait to see what the school is like if the website contains this much info on tap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeF4y Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 SETUP SETUP SETUP... THROTTLE CONTROL THROTTLE CONTROL THROTTLE CONTROL If you're sliding before you get on the gas and before the apex, the two pieces above are your issue... I went through this as well years back. I didn't really understand how/what was happening until I started ice racing. On the ice, I'm on a CRF-450 which has a TON of suspension travel (like 14"). When you go through the corners, you can feel everything and it's very pronounced, and can show you what is happening. If I come into a corner on the brakes and pitch it in, the rear end will come around on me and then I can get back on the gas and slide it out. This is simply because there's no weight on the rear end. However, if I come into a corner ON the gas, the rear end holds perfect traction (unless I ham-fist it to break it loose). Throttle control is the key to your success here. I'll bet you a crisp dollar that if you go into a corner where you've been sliding - ON THE GAS, you will not slide. Obviously you can't fly through it with no brakes, so slow down while upright, then accelerate THROUGH the turn. It's a common mistake that's addressed in all of Keith's books and level 1 schools... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03tlrmo Posted May 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 your absolutly right I had gotten totw2 and read this post and ever since my tire hasn't slid unless I'm rolling on the throttle hard and it's a spin not a slide. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hommie Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 I've read some things about what you all are talking about regarding 5.5" vs 6.0" rims, and squeezing the tire and thus changing the profile. My 05' 999S comes with a 5.5, and a 190 Pilot Power. A super sticky tire, (it's tough getting rid of the 'chicket-strips with this tire!) but I'm curious as to the proper profile for the tire. It must be OK right? It's Ducati OEM for god's sake! But I think that when I need new tires, chain, and sporckets, I will jump to the 6". Unfortunatly, I have to change to either a 520, or 530 as Marchesini don't make aftermarket rims that will take a 525, and cush-drives also need to be changed. Any other feed back would be appreciated...Hommie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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