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Mashuri

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  2. Skipping A Level?

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    mashuri - i understand your point, but the important thing to realize is the difference between book knowledge and ability to apply that knowledge at speed on the track. Believe me, i read totw 1 and 2 over 30 times each, before almost every weekend i raced for four years. I was an expert level racer with WERA, and had the book knowledge, but i assure you i could not apply it all well. If everything you needed was in a book, Keith, and a lot of us who teach, would be out of jobs.

     

    I didn't expect to get much out of level 1 when i took it last year, but i was amazed to find out how much i still needed to learn how to apply what i thought i "knew". I was also impressed with how the subjects were taught (not straight out of the books) and how much extra material was added and how it helped fill out my understanding and ability to apply the techniques.

     

    I went on to level 2 and 3 and had the same experience (although i did learn things i hadn't even heard of in the later levels). "Knowing the curriculum" is meaningless until you consistently are able to apply it in practice, and I would bet that after 9 years you could still find a great deal of worth in the level 1 class.

     

    I think too, that Keith offers a guarantee of sorts (couldn't find the text on the website, but have seen it before) about all students getting a worthwhile learning experience.

     

    Maybe one of the instructors can rattle off some names of top level roadracers who have come into the school and started with level 1 just like everyone else...i know there are a few of them, and they are probably a little faster than you (guessing).

    I agree there is a difference between book knowledge and actual personal teaching with physical application. The point I don't seem to be getting across is I TOOK KEITH CODE'S CLASS AT THE BEGINNER LEVEL ALREADY. I have already shelled out my money and received instruction from them before. That's why I'm concerned I won't get much out of a level 1 class or, if I still have much to learn in today's format, that I wasted my money on poor instruction back in 1995. Perhaps the guarantee is my possible redemption. If I go and find that I'm basically being taught stuff I was already taught by them before will I get my money back? Has anyone ever requested this before and have they actually received their refund?

  3. Skipping A Level?

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    Mashuri,

     

    Why ask for a test? If you are satisfied that you know their curriculum, why bother going to their school?

     

    My experience with the school is that a student determines for themselves whether or not they have learned anything. There is no test at the end of the day nor are grades given out, unless you consider lap times a grade. I think lap times are a pretty effective way to measure if I have improved (learned) at all but that's just me. I will tell you that no one is measured by whether they are book smart.

     

    Personally, I am not that smart and clearly not a very good rider so I keep going back to school... but you are more fortunate than me. Save your money.

     

    Kevin Kane

    You have completely misunderstood my post. I'm wondering if I know enough curriculum to skip Level 1. There are three more levels to go after that. Your statement that a "student determines for themselves whether or not they have learned anything" is over-simplified. It's a two-way street. It's up to me to pay attention and apply what I'm being taught and it's up to the instructor to teach me something I don't already know. Make sense? Yes, I'm book-smart but, in case you didn't read, I did take Keith's class before. Now either Keith didn't really know what to teach beginners back then or I will be pretty much wasting my money on a level 1 class. Those are the two options I see right now.

  5. Skipping A Level?

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    I attended this school back in 1995. Twist II had already been released but Keith had a different "level" format back then. We went over SR's and how to overcome them, body positioning, corner entry speed, etc. at Streets of Willow. Since then I have been using Twist II as my "bible" and have been adopting its teachings at my track days. I called to enroll in Level 2 but was told I would have to start over, even though Keith still teaches based on Twist II. I feel like I'm being told that my class in 1995 was a complete waste of money and I have to start over again. Level 1 will not be worth anywhere near $350 for me. Maybe $50 or so but most of what's being taught there I already learned in 1995. So did Keith really not know how to teach beginners back then, requiring me to start over, or will I just be throwing money away on the current Level 1??

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