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  4. Riding Gear Research (Leather Suit & Gloves)

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    Gloves:

     

    I hyper-extended ("bent backward") my left thumb during a crash last summer. It still bothers me occasionally. I was wearing AlpineStars SP1 gloves at the time. I would like to find a pair of gloves that have some sort of protection built in that allows fingers and thumbs to move in the direction they are intended to move, but does not allow them to go the other way. My son plays hockey and his hockey gloves have a rigid support that will keep thumbs from bending backward but does not restrict regular, forward movement. I have not seen this on any riding gloves.

     

    For this season I bought a pair of Held Titan gloves but thankfully have not "road tested" them. The Held Titans have the two smallest fingers sewn together to provide additional support. They also have a very rigid gauntlet section to help protect the wrist better. They still don't offer the thumb protection I would like, but they include several features I had not seen on any others. After buying the Held gloves, I saw that AlpineStars is offering a model with the ring and little finger sewn together, also.

     

    Thank you 2old for your time and feedback. Btw, if you ride a motorcycle, you are not old ;)

     

    Interesting observation about the hockey gloves. Do you have a brand name / photo or link for me to learn about it?

    Like I mentioned above, check out Knox Handroid, since it comes with a construction where backward movement would be restricted.

     

    Yes I have noted down already about the finger-bridge, which is quite helpful to safe-guard the little finger... I read somewhere that Alpinestars hold patent for finger-bridge (ring and little finger sewn together)

     

    I like the way Held Titan used stingray in important places... Held looks to be good quality too!

     

  5. Riding Gear Research (Leather Suit & Gloves)

    in School Questions/General Discussion

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    I've fallen a couple of times and mostly the injuries are crubbed skin because of abrasion between the skin and the inside of the underwear/suit - I think this would be (very) hard to avoid.

    In August 2011, I highsided (a very small one though), and hit my wrist on something while going over the bike and broke the radius bone in the wrist. Braking any bone in a joint like the wrist is really really bad (I have reduced movement and strength in the broken wrist now, thanks to doctors not paying enough attention to bone bit dislocation).

     

    Armour: my suit (from dragtdesigneren.dk/d-wears.dk, which have them manufactured in Pakistan) had some simple removable foam rubber "protections". I removed them and use a Knox back/chest protector instead.

     

    As for general strength, make the suit out of as few pieces of leather as possible. Use hidden stitchings.

    I used to use Held Phantom gloves, made of Kangeroo leather. They were "pre-formed" and the entire palm and fingers were a single piece of skin, so there we not stitchings to annoy the palm and the fairly thin leather gave really good feeling for the levers and gas. They took two lowsides with hardly any damage to them. I retired them after about 6-8 years due to the stitching dying.

     

    Thank you khp for your time and feedback.

    Abrasion between leather and skin can be due to few reasons:

    - If your armor is plastic one's it might hurt your skin.

    - If your suit is not skin fit... in this case it rubs onto the skin, specially in a low-side slide.

    - Also race quality leather suits use additional foam padding inside the armor area to safe guard skin.

     

    You should also take a look at Knox Handroid gloves which comes with Knox SPS for scaphoid protection. It works like a slider and reduce wrist area fractures. I read about Held Phantom and that also have some good reviews.

     

    Most jackets and suit does not come with back armor (yea they have shape retainers). Usually this is to control the pricing.

    Yes, I know about hidden seam construction and having few pieces in the entire suit. Also there are some stitching techniques to make it more tear resistant.

     

    Kangaroo leather is better than cow hide in abrasion (also less weight but more expensive) but I believe there are some import restrictions on it for importing to India (still working on it).

  6. Back Protectors

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    Have you ever seen those mesh suits, made to go UNDER leathers, that have the armor built into the inner suit?

     

    I saw a guy riding on the freeway yesterday wearing one of those undersuits. Nothing over it - except his boots. Just the mesh suit with the pads flapping around in the wind. Guess nobody told him it is underwear!

     

    Those are mostly for dirt riding than for the tracks... Awareness about riding gears are very low everywhere too...

  7. Riding Gear Research (Leather Suit & Gloves)

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    Hey Guys,

     

    My wife and me run a riding gear store in India. We currently stock several brands including international ones (Alpinestars, Knox, AGVSports, HJC, SAS-tec etc...)

     

    I'm working on manufacturing leather suits & gloves for track use and would need your help in understanding 1 piece suit & gloves, features and drawbacks of the one's you have used... I already have the manufacturer decided but wanted to make sure the best safety features are incorporated in the product.

     

    If you can answer few questions would be grateful :)

     

    - Have you had an injury related to spill/fall/crash from motorcycle, wearing a full leather 1 piece suit?

    - If so what / how / which suit? Can you explain what happened, if you don't mind?

    - Do you know someone who had broken any bones other than collar-bone or wrist(Scaphoid)?

     

    - Do you remove the armor in your suit and check what kind of armor it is?

    - How much research have you done on the armor used inside 1 piece leather suit?

    - Is the armor manufactured by recognized armor companies like Knox, Alpinestars, SAS-TEC etc.?

     

    Do you prefer wearing an additional Back armor or would prefer the one which is build-into the suit itself?

     

    - What kind of gloves do you use on the track? (I assume full gauntlet one's)?

    - Have you had any injuries to your hands during a spill/fall/crash wearing the gloves? If you can explain it would be useful.

    - What features do you like on your gloves, specially from safety point of view?

     

    After going through several leather suits and gloves from different manufacturers, I've noted down several safety features required... but I'm also interested to learn from people who have gone through those unfortunate incidents.

     

    Thanks in Advance!

  8. Back Protectors

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    Hey Gorecki,

     

    I have the Knox Aegis and have been very happy with it.

     

    Best,

    Carey

    Same pinch... I use Knox Aegis as well and been riding with for almost 6months+

    Not tested yet though...

     

    I'm planning on getting a Knox track vest or something similar. My suit doesn't come with space for chest inserts so I definitely want something that covers my chest as well as back.

     

    Hans, You can get chest guard (easy attachment) separately with Knox Aegis as well. It gets attached to the straps of the Aegis very well.

     

     

    Have you ever seen any data on how long they last, if they ever need to be replaced? (Aside from if you fall down, I'm just talking about age or amount of use.) I have a Dianese, I've been using it long enough that I am starting to wonder if it's time for a new one.

     

    Hotfoot, Usual protectors have a life of 2-3years (mostly the types which are used as inserts) but like T-McKenn mentioned it would also depend up on the make and material used.

     

    Viscoelastic foam based protectors like sas-tec have a life of 10years and also it's multi-impact compliant. I replaced armor in my leathers with them and it's extremely comfortable as well. Most other armors needs a change after a fall/crash.

  9. Evidence Deleted

    in School Questions/General Discussion

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    Thanks Eirik and Hotfoot.

    I have a dirt custom one I got for kids (100cc), but then realized it's too much power for a start.

    Shhhh... don't tell anyone, it threw me out once... :)

     

     

    PW50 & CRF50 sounds like good options, now need to figure out how to get those down here...

    Any ideas on approx. price in $ for both PW50 and CRF-50 there?

     

    Website says $1400 approx. but usually website shows more...

     

  12. Video From India

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    I was happy to get Dylan as coach for Level 3 (Jan 2013). Glen was awesome too for L1&2. Waiting for another year for CSS L4...

     

    The support infrastructure for this sport in India is not mature enough yet.

     

    Also to be at the highest level, training needs to start at a very early age and parents need to be rich too...

     

    Hopefully it would change with the next generation! :)

     

     

    There are popular guys who have won championship outside of India as well... but encouragement for the sport is low...

    Rajini has been hard working for what he has achieved... I'm sure Dylan remembers him - https://www.facebook...ajiniKrishnan67

     

    It was freaky to watch Rajini and Joe Roberts on the track during lunch time :)

  14. Evidence Deleted

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    Thanks Eirik.

    My question was more about how to start him on motorcycle than cornering. Yes I use Sena for communication so that's already covered.

    On a bicycle it's easy to make them sit and hold it and run behind them probably to teach them. But how do you teach them on a motorcycle.

     

    If you are not aware, in India there is no basic training programs for motorcycle riding. It's mostly someone put you on the motorcycle and told you how to change the gear... u fall n learn after that :)

  15. The Bad Side - Lefts Or Rights?

    in Articles by Keith

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    I have one more "possible" reasoning.

     

    Almost all the bikes come with back break on the right side, so when you stop the bike you have your left foot down on the ground. This made my preference to turn left more easily than the right.

     

    Approximately 11years back, I used a bike which had the brake/gear levers on the opposite sides (brake on the left & gear on the right). Initially it was really difficult to ride that bike since if I put my left foot down (due to the habit), I can't use the brakes.

     

    But after riding that bike for almost a month, I became more comfortable with both sides...

    Now I don't use my back brake mostly anyways and don't have a specific side preference anymore. The track where I have ridden the most was a right hander (my weak side) so side preferences are washed away :)

     

    Thought I should point out this scenario to be one of the possible reasons for the side preference.

  16. Evidence Deleted

    in School Questions/General Discussion

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    Sounds like there should be a CSS level for Dad's on how to teach cornering to their kids :)

     

    I want to get my son started next year onwards on motorcycle...

    Any advice for me on how to teach kids to ride a motorcycle? Bike (bicycle part is going on and he's good at it).

     

    For the records he's 4yrs :)

  17. Quick Instructional Video #2

    in Cornering and Techniques

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    Looking forward to more such videos...

     

    My experience on this...

    1st track day photos showed my outside knee pointing upwards... After pulling out some hair, I realized I was sitting too close to the tank.

    After that I started sitting little at the back... but not able to grip the tank

     

    During my CSS (Jan 2013 in India), I got help from the coaches who pointed out the mistake... yes I was sitting much further back...

    Corrected that and the whole feel of riding on the corners changed completely!

     

    You guys rock!

  18. Mental Recovery After A Crash

    in Cornering and Techniques

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    I blew a corner last week. A classic SR scenario - unfamiliar snake turn on unfamiliar road, carried too much speed for my comfort zone, got scared of tar snakes and lean angle, went straight off the road and down in the grass. Broke plastic fairings, bent subframe. I got a small bruise on calf (was wearing full protection which I think saved my bacon). Leathers got dirty, not torn.

     

    Obviously I blame myself for getting scared of that turn - I have been on track and into much more extreme lean angles (down to scraping pegs) than was required for that corner. I shouldnt have been afraid of that lean angle, yet I wasnt feeling safe there. In fact thinking back I wasnt feeling safe that day on the road at all for no reason.

     

    My family, of course, now is even more against track days and street rides. I feel I got a good lesson, but not sure how to get back the confidence needed for riding a sports bike.

     

    I wonder how others have dealt with similar situations and got back into saddle?

     

    Peter

     

    Sounds like you have your basics right... Wearing full protection and understanding what went wrong.

    If it's your 1st fall from a bike, it takes a bit of time to get the full confidence back... It took 3months for me after the 1st fall. Practicing makes it perfect so there is nothing to blame yourself. Varied concentration levels happens in life.

     

    Learn more about hook-turn which has helped me in several cases to tighten the line mid corner (CSS Level 3I believe). I personally prefer to hangout more and reduce lean angle while on the road. You can always go a little slower the 1st time you ride on a new route. Similar to sighting lap done on the tracks...

     

    Your family cares for you and thus worried... so it's normal.

    WAGAT (Wear All Gears All Time) and I'm sure in no time you will be back on confidence level!

    Good Luck!

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