abhoy
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Interesting - thank you!
Do students tend to end up with blisters as well after a long day at one of your classes, or does the relative lack of speed and aggression usually protect them?
Erik,
You have many questions typical of most bike riders who have not taken CSS or understand TOTW. We all start out with the same mind set. Keith has taught that our instincts are mostly counter intuitive to correct riding techniques. I used to have blisters before CSS, but we were taught to relax our arms, and grip on the handle bars. Taking the course really helps put you in the right direction.
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PhillyJoey, welcome to the board and congrats on signing up for Level 1. You can expect to meet a great group of folks that also have the same goals in mind of becoming a safe and better riders. Come well rested, eager to learn and be ready to have a great time.
Are there particular areas of your riding that you feel could improve and make you a safer rider? What prompted you to take the first step?
I took the first step because after I took the PA motorcycle safety program I realized that everything was done at a really low speed 10-15 mph. They had a lot of useful information but nothing really on braking or how much a bike could really handle. Once i saw this school I knew it was somthing I wanted to do. I could use some help in entry speed and turning points. I was also looking for some advice for using my bike, set up etc. I will be using my 2002 zx6r. Would love to use the new BMW but just cant really afford that right now.
I highly recommend having your suspension sag set up.
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Jody, heal up soon.
IMHO - you're being too nice. Watching that clip it doesn't matter - This is not an accident - he rammed into you which seems too reckless on his part.
I'll say it - You have it on tape - take him too court!
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I'm re-posting this as a new topic:
I've done CSS levels 1 & 2.
At Thunderbolt - I'm going thru T1 - into the turn up to the apex we're carrying the same speeds, but from the apex to the exit mark the Control Rider drives out much faster by the time we hit the exit mark he's up my a$$.
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I've done CSS levels 1 & 2.
At Thunderbolt - I'm going thru T1 - into the turn up to the apex we're carrying the same speeds, but from the apex to the exit mark the Control Rider drives out much faster by the time we hit the exit mark he's up my a$$.
I shift my butt on the straight before I start braking, and setting up for the quick turn. I find that during the corner out of the apex, when I throttle on harder my line goes wider as I head towards the exit cone using the pick up drill…I think there must be a balance of when and how much to get on the gas to keep the line. So how do I get on the gas harder without over shooting the line?
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Hotfoot - good question:
I'm looking at the apex cone, then turn in. No I'm not adjusting my line. I'll try to attach 2 pics in sequence on a left turn. Bike in front. Not sure if pics will post.
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Cobie - what you say makes sense - adding throttle & lean at the same time. I'm not sure exactly what is going on thru the turn. I will describe briefly the difference between the "old" and "new" turn:
before: My turn entry speed slower, quick turn, lean angle less severe, I wait for bike to settle, speed scrubbing off, I get on the throttle slightly before the apex to maintain speed thru the turn.
after: Faster turn entry speed, quick turn, lean, throttle on to maintain speed thru turn. I find that my lean angle may be increasing more in the turn - yup you're right.
I guess that I'm increasing my lean angle thru the turn before the apex, therefore getting my knee to the ground at some point in the turn, instead of at the begining and all the way thru the turn? (Yes I get it - BAD)
Does Corner entry speed dictate lean angle from turn in point? If true does that mean my knee should be dragging from quick turn point thru past the apex. (Using knee as indicator only)
- getting on the throttle to MAINTAIN speed thru the corner?
Thanks
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Cobie, please correct me if I'm making the wrong assumptions:
TOTW - I don't have the book with me but Keith mentions that the force to get to the 40/60 is similar to 4th gear 6000rpm on the throttle (something like that).
Recently, I'm cracking the throttle on immediately after the quick turn instead of letting the bike settle first. Keith also mentioned that this (throttle on) settles the bike quicker.
The result for me is I find the bike is faster and leaning more to keep the same line (I'm off the seat to lower the CG and keep bike as upright as possible), yet more stable thru the turn.
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Cobie, is this a trick question? Having completed levels 1 & 2 at NJ Thunderbolt with you and Jon as my coach, my cornering technique has improved tremendously.
After CSS I mentally reviewed our sessions and everything that was taught. I don't think Keith and his instructors randomly put those lessons and drills in that order. By design, it was very instrumental in taking the students up a level every time we went out on track. So my answer would be the same priority as set in levels 1 & 2.
So either I should list them here, or they should take CSS.??
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Same here. Absolutely had a great time learning the many facets of motorcyling. Some of the drills might not make sense but it all comes together at the end of the day.
Keith and his staff are great. I had the privilege of having Cobie, Jon as my on-track coaches, and Pete on the steering drill. Regardless who your coaches are, the four of my buddies really gained a lot of knowledge. What stands out beyond the curriculum, is that the staff are very professional and helpful. If they can remember me by name(not a common one), it shows that they care about their CSS program and the students.
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Stuman & Kevin, thanks! On my first track day everyone told me I should be on a 600. By the afternoon session I was passing 600's. NOTED that none of us were at the limits of the bikes. Learning my own bike, its characteristics, and its limits, improving my skills and finding new ones is why I'm signed up. As you said Stuman - "Riding a 600 does teach you some good things, but they can be learned on a 1000 too." This does not mean that one should run out and buy a literbike first time out.
Thanks, see you in school.
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I'm signed up for Code school Levels 1 & 2 using my own bike, a GSXR1000.
Everyone will say that learning on a 600 first will improve our abilities on the 1000s.
What are the pros & cons of : Learning on a 600 first vs. learning on my own 1000?
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I've been riding a bike nearly daily for over a year now, it's not powerful or anything but it's still great fun.
I have a slight problem, I'm pretty easy on the leaning which I think stems from my bike once slipping out from under me on an icy day. I only mention this because I got thinking about when I went to a bike show recently and got on some mini-moto style bikes. As it seemed like a whole new ball game, I was leaning the thing on it's side, dragging the knee/shin guards along the floor. I think I felt so confident to really get it down because it was so low to the ground, not very quick, the surface was smooth and there was no traffic.
When I got back on my bike the next day, I noticed I was barely leaning whilst making turns, often having to drop massive amounts of speed to even negotiate a turn. I know it's possible, I just can't make myself lean!
As I have only taken a one day CBT course, I have never had chance to be in a proper environment learning about how a motorcycle behaves so I have adapted to this upright style and I fear it may impact upon my riding if I can't somehow teach myself to relax a little.
So folks, where should I start?
Thanks for your help,
Rufio
Ok. I'm wiser now than when I was 19. Two wheeled vehicles will travel upright due to gyroscopic effect of the wheels. That means when your wheels start rolling - YOU WON"T FALL !! Try it on your bicycle. YOU WON"T FALL. To turn a mc is called counter steering. To turn Left push on your left handle bar. Your bike will lean to the left into the turn. At best try to lean at the same angle as your bike..don't counter lean. YOU WON"T FALL . Try turning in a large parking lot (empty preferably) where you won't run out of road. After you are comfortable leaning with your bike, try shifting your weight to the side that is leaning. You don't have to hang off the bike. Remember- you have to make the bike lean into corners because it has a tendency to be upright - due to gyroscopic effect.Always wear a helmet and gear up.
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I had a similar experience on the front tire, first lap, 40+ degrees F, cold tires, fast T2, I felt the tire shudder. Not at all alarming, but it taught me what it feels like.