[Weighting A Footpeg - Inside Or Outside?]

Have any of you guys ridden the NO B/S bike? That is a real treat, highly recommended .

No, not me, Cobie. Like ozfirebalde, I don't know if the UK school has one. Bullet, Andy?

 

Craig

[Weighting A Footpeg - Inside Or Outside?]

My second bike (and 2nd race bike) was a ducati similar to that one, 1980 Supersport, black and gold. Neat bike, but long as a freight train!

 

Excellent! But yeh, long ... Just how Mike Hailwood beat them all around the Island on something similar will forever remain an unfathomable mystery for me . I think John Williams was kinda thinking the same ...

 

 

 

And then he went and beat them all again around Mallory Park, a short track course, if ever there was one.

 

 

But I'm dangerously 'Off Topic' now, so will shut up ... Raining here today and work to do as well, so no chance yet to go and experiment.

 

Amicalement

 

Craig

[Weighting A Footpeg - Inside Or Outside?]

Let us know (when you can ) if you give this a try and what you find happening.

Will do, Cobie. Weather's gone horrible again here, so it may be a few days (yeh, yeh, I have no shame in being a Fair Weather Biker these days).

 

To be honest, I'm really not sure what I do at the moment - so must pay more attention to the good advice in Chapter 2 of TWTI . All I would say at the moment is that, when riding my little Scrambler for example, I can't deny NI's argument that weighting a peg does cause the bike to steer in the direction of the weighting.

 

But then again Pete's message reminds me that I do weight the outside peg when turning the big Ducrappi - i.e use it as a pivot point, to use Keith's term. And I think I do the same on my track bike. But I've just come over all confused now ...

 

Cheers

 

Craig

[Weighting A Footpeg - Inside Or Outside?]

<snip> We are talking about weighting the outside peg creating a pivot point. This pivot point is used to gain more leverage and force which then can be applied to the opposite handle bar --enhancing our counter-steering action.

Thanks, Pete. Good. This is as I understood it when I first read it, before geting my head messed up by .... . So good to have a confirmation.

(P.s. Yes, I appreciate pivot steering is an extra to counter-steering, not 'The Real Thing'.)

 

Keith being very thorough says the lower peg, because some sport bikes have rear passenger pegs which would be considered upper. So that would eliminate any confusion on which peg to pivot from.

Ah! Ta! .

(Curiously, I do tend to ride this over-stretched lump off the back pegs, so I should have be able to work that one myself.)

P.s Don't laugh - these things pretended to be sports bikes in their day. It's not what I use as a track bike today, I should hasten to add.

 

Your not missing anything, the data about weighting the peg is false data.

 

Ah! (again ...). OK, armed with that info, I shall follow Cobie's advice and go see what happens in real life.

 

Thanks again.

 

Craig

[Weighting A Footpeg - Inside Or Outside?]

Happy New Year everyone and here's something I've come across recently that I don't really get.

 

In chapter 19 of TWT II, Keith is talking about pivot steering. He emphasises the importance of weighting the outside peg, writing, for example on page 85:

"Using the outside peg as your pivot point ... reduces your weight on the seat and puts the majority of your weight on that lower, outside peg".

 

Yet in Sport Riding Techniques, Nick Ienatsch in chapter 4, entitled "Steer that Thing", clearly emphasises weighting the inside peg. He says, for example, on page 42:

" ... the bike begins turning when you move your body weight towards the inside of the corner, onto the inside foot peg".

 

So are these contradictory approaches, or am I missing something here?

 

Any elucidation will be much appreciated!

 

Craig

 

P.s. One thing I certainly don't understand is how, in Keith's sentence, the peg that is to be weighted can be both "lower" and "outside" ... ?

 

P.p.s. You can probably tell from this posting that the weather here hasn't really too great for riding recently, and I've been filling my idle hours with too much reading and not enuf doing - altho' I did get out yesterday, but not on a sports bike ...

 

[2011 Uk School Dates]

Just to say, Bobby, that I did Level 1 at Stowe last year and thought it was fine. The fact that there are no real straights is, in fact, good - 'cos CSS is all about turns, right? . And I also liked that it's short - means you quickly get back to the turn that you stuffed up on/rode like Rossi last time.

 

The only very small downer is that the turns are mainly lefts. But this is nit-picking.

 

Am going back in April to do Level 2 .

 

Craig

 

P.s Sorry, don't know about camping.

[Jorge Lorenzo Fast In]

Would anyone on here think about trying to go into the corners faster to improve lap times?

Well, Keith says, 'Yes' ...

 

Twist I, Chapter 8, page 63:

"If you want to go one mph faster than the last lap, you must be able to go into the turn that much faster. You can't hope to make up the speed later in the turn - you must set it up right in the beginning."

 

(I guess Jorge must have been doing some reading before Valencia ... )

 

Ciao

 

Craig