Bones Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Firstly; this is still ?counter-steering? just with a slight twist. This transition works especially well when you need to steer the bike after hard braking (ie: a hairpin after a long straight). I use the pressure of my arms on the handlebars from braking, to pre-load the pressure I want to use to counter-steer for the corner (any excessive pressure to what I need is shifted to the legs). As I get to my turning point, I release the brake and I also release the pressure on the outside handlebar, which now leaves pressure only on the inside handlebar (counter-steering). So basically I don?t press the inside handlebar, I release the pressure on the outside handlebar to steer. Stand facing a table about 2 feet in distance, then lean and place your hands on the table about shoulder width apart. Allow your body weight to rest on both hands; it should feel a bit like braking. Now just release the pressure from one of the hands. You?ll notice that there is now twice as much pressure on the other hand. You can?t totally eliminate the pressure on the handlebars when you?re braking hard, so you might as well make use of it. Enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balistic Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 Firstly; this is still ?counter-steering? just with a slight twist. This transition works especially well when you need to steer the bike after hard braking (ie: a hairpin after a long straight). I use the pressure of my arms on the handlebars from braking, to pre-load the pressure I want to use to counter-steer for the corner (any excessive pressure to what I need is shifted to the legs). As I get to my turning point, I release the brake and I also release the pressure on the outside handlebar, which now leaves pressure only on the inside handlebar (counter-steering). So basically I don?t press the inside handlebar, I release the pressure on the outside handlebar to steer. Enjoy! Have you ever tried holding your body up with your back and releasing all the weight off the bars? If you can do it the bike will calm down and stay straight on the brakes but you will be back to plain old CSing then. Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones Posted February 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 Will, Have to agree. Under normal braking, my goal is to completely remove/reduce the braking force from the handle bars. There are only a few corners that I use this steering transition (it is still the old CS). At Phillip Island, from turn 3 (240+kph) to turn 4 (90-100 kph) is an extreme braking approach. Also from Lukey Heights at MG corner as well. Possibly you could use it at turn 11 at Laguna Seca? Give it a go, I'm interested in your feedback. Cheers Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balistic Posted March 3, 2004 Report Share Posted March 3, 2004 Will, Have to agree. Under normal braking, my goal is to completely remove/reduce the braking force from the handle bars. There are only a few corners that I use this steering transition (it is still the old CS). At Phillip Island, from turn 3 (240+kph) to turn 4 (90-100 kph) is an extreme braking approach. Also from Lukey Heights at MG corner as well. Possibly you could use it at turn 11 at Laguna Seca? Give it a go, I'm interested in your feedback. Cheers Paul Well one area were I don't spend much attention is turning. I can turn the bike faster than the frame and suspension can coop with. It's not an area I will change in my riding. I will tell you that I am push/pull turner. I use both hands. I usually don't have any weight on the bars at the time I turn, just the steering input. For me if I don't remove the weight before the steering input I can't let go of the bars soon enough after it. Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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