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Setup Explanation For An S1000Rr With Big Rider.

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Hey All,

 

I am about to take delivery of my 2011 S1000RR, and have some questions I could not find an answer to by searching.

 

I am 6' 2" and 265 lbs. and shrinking, the manual uses settings for a 190lb. rider.

 

The owner's manual says sag should be 10mm to 15mm front, 20mm to 25mm rear. Which end of the range should I be at?

Front Fork Compression damping is listed as;

Position 3 (comfortable setting with rider 85 kg)

Position 5 (normal setting with rider 85 kg)

Position 8 (sports setting with rider 85 kg)

 

Rebound is listed as;

Position 2 (comfortable setting with rider 85 kg)

Position 5 (normal setting with rider 85 kg)

Position 8 (sports setting with rider 85 kg)

 

Rear shock has both low and high speed compression settings;

 

Compression stage, basic setting, rear, high speed

Position 2 (comfortable setting with rider 85 kg)

Position 6 (normal setting with rider 85 kg)

Position 10 (sports setting with rider 85 kg)

 

Compression stage, basic setting, rear, low speed

Position 1 (comfortable setting with rider 85 kg)

Position 4 (normal setting with rider 85 kg)

Position 9 (sports setting with rider 85 kg)

 

and rebound is listed as;

Position 2 (comfortable setting with rider 85 kg)

Position 5 (normal setting with rider 85 kg)

Position 8 (sports setting with rider 85 kg)

 

What would the normal settings for my size be? The same as listed?, or a little higher? How higher?

I'm thinking normal settings are where I want to be for street riding and until I get used to the bike. My two other bikes, mid-70's SOHC4 Honda's, have no adjustments whatsoever, I just used heavier oil in the forks and dropped them in the trees a bit.

 

 

Any help is greatly appreciated!

 

Gonzo out.

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The owner's manual says sag should be 10mm to 15mm front, 20mm to 25mm rear. Which end of the range should I be at?

 

 

Hi mate,

 

I would be amazed if you could get those (Rider) sag settings on the standard springs with your mass I'm afraid. Until you get the right rider sag figures, you're pretty much chasing yourself around, as you need to keep the suspension in it's optimum zone. All the pre-load in the world can't change the spring weight, and these types of bikes are normally set for your joe aveerage rider weight so fully expect you're going to have put springs in either end to get that I'm afraid.

 

The real answer is go and take it to a suspension specialist, they'll measure it for you, and advise on the right springs for you and the bike, as it does vary from bike to bike in what spring you need, but I'd suggest something like a 10.5nm to 11nm spring either end is likely to be right. Without knowing, i'd guess that perhaps the BM has something like a 8.5 or 9Nm springs as standard.

 

Bullet

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Well, looks like this will be hard. Neither Ohlins, nor the Motorrad online EPC show springs as separate parts for the rear shock, and the EPC doesn't even show springs on the cartridge. Ohlins webpage says no parts are available for the S1000RR, but that could be because it has yet to be updated. Will I need to replace the whole cartridge on the front? or just the springs? I have no experience with these adjustable forks the kids a running these days!:P

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Well, looks like this will be hard. Neither Ohlins, nor the Motorrad online EPC show springs as separate parts for the rear shock, and the EPC doesn't even show springs on the cartridge. Ohlins webpage says no parts are available for the S1000RR, but that could be because it has yet to be updated. Will I need to replace the whole cartridge on the front? or just the springs? I have no experience with these adjustable forks the kids a running these days!tongue.gif

 

I'd suggest you just need to look around try the S1000RR forum, when I was considering buying one of these, there were a lot of very knowledgeable people over there who've done all these mods to your bike already.

 

Your local suspension guy will also be able to advise you on which parts they need. You can definitely get Ohlins cartridges for the forks, but in all honesty, unless your a heavy trackday user or racer, it's very expensive upgrade and not worth it when a couple of hundred dollars max is more than enough to resolve this issuette. The right spring weight and a modification of the shims to adjust the damping will suffice, same for the shock too, possibly different weight oil will all help get you in the right zone.

 

Bullet

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Now for the fun part...finding someone local to me who knows his/her stuff. My part of the States, Virginia, is all about 3 foot swingarms and 1/4 mile times. I'll ask at my local dealer, the guys in the service department are former/current racers.

 

Thanks for your input!

 

Gonzo

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Now for the fun part...finding someone local to me who knows his/her stuff. My part of the States, Virginia, is all about 3 foot swingarms and 1/4 mile times. I'll ask at my local dealer, the guys in the service department are former/current racers.

Gonzo,

 

I'd give the Öhlins distributor a call. The S1000RR is quite popular in Germany for superbike racing, and I'm quite certain that Öhlins has made some parts for it, even though they aren't on the ohlins website. If it all boils down to a new set of fork springs and a spring for the rear suspension, they should be able to take a few measurements and either find a suitable part or make one for you. Oh, and they should also be able to recommend a (relatively) local shop for you.

 

Here's the contact details for Öhlins USA:

USA

Öhlins USA Inc.

703-C S. Grove St.

Hendersonville, N.C. 28792

Tel. +1 828 692 4525

Fax. +1 828 692 0595

E-mail: info@ohlinsusa.comGood luck,

 

 

 

 

Kai

 

 

 

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I was browsing through the Zupin Moto-Sport catalogue ("Ihr zuverlässiger Partner im Motosport") and noticed that they quote BM888 as the part number for the S1000RR rear shock.

They also quote FGRT811 for the FG43 Road & Track front fork and FGK212 for the Cartridge Kit.

 

 

Kai

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