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Hi Will!

 

First off, thanks for letting me look over your shoulder and ask a bunch of newbie questions during the 2 day school at VIR August 15&16, 2012. I was the guy who was asking about the R&G frame sliders while you were picking a rock out of the fairing and replacing the slider after a crash.:) Incidentally, I'm in the process of replacing my Yoshi's with R&Gs.B)

Soooooo, I get home from the school, more in love with my S1000rr than ever after riding your brilliant machines, and I take it for a two mile ride and it just feels terrible! I may be jumping the gun a bit because the tire pressures were off (I usually ride 33F/36R, Metzler K3's but the gauge indicated 33R, didn't even bother checking the front, just assumed a proportionate reduction in PSI) and the bike has been sitting for a few weeks but the steering felt awful.

 

It seemed like the front tire was concrete and when I would go to countersteer, the handlebars would actually turn (after first feeling like concrete) instead of leaning the bike? Anyway, I'm going to go for a real ride this weekend to verify but in the meantime, it made me curious as to what modifications have been made to the student bikes regarding suspension, steering dampener etc.....? Can you tell me the settings you're using? My bike is still right off the dealer floor stock.....

 

I am on a mission to make my bike feel exactly like what I rode at CSS!!!!!

 

Thank you sir!

 

Ferenc (Fadi)

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Ferenc,

 

Sounds like you have far too low pressure in the front tyre as well. Over time, I have learned to tell if the front or rear is low by 2-3 psi.

The way I have learned it, is to observe "they this thing turns like "#¤!$" and then find that the front (or rear) is a bit low on pressure :)

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Hi Will!

 

First off, thanks for letting me look over your shoulder and ask a bunch of newbie questions during the 2 day school at VIR August 15&16, 2012. I was the guy who was asking about the R&G frame sliders while you were picking a rock out of the fairing and replacing the slider after a crash.:) Incidentally, I'm in the process of replacing my Yoshi's with R&Gs.B)

Soooooo, I get home from the school, more in love with my S1000rr than ever after riding your brilliant machines, and I take it for a two mile ride and it just feels terrible! I may be jumping the gun a bit because the tire pressures were off (I usually ride 33F/36R, Metzler K3's but the gauge indicated 33R, didn't even bother checking the front, just assumed a proportionate reduction in PSI) and the bike has been sitting for a few weeks but the steering felt awful.

 

It seemed like the front tire was concrete and when I would go to countersteer, the handlebars would actually turn (after first feeling like concrete) instead of leaning the bike? Anyway, I'm going to go for a real ride this weekend to verify but in the meantime, it made me curious as to what modifications have been made to the student bikes regarding suspension, steering dampener etc.....? Can you tell me the settings you're using? My bike is still right off the dealer floor stock.....

 

I am on a mission to make my bike feel exactly like what I rode at CSS!!!!!

 

Thank you sir!

 

Ferenc (Fadi)

 

 

 

You will get a lot of opinion about set-up and tire pressure but the simple fact is I run the Fleet bikes with the stock settings ( fork R 5, C 5, shock R 5-7, CH 5, CL 5-7). The tire pressure we use is 33/33 cold in the morning, that would be higher in the day. If I were setting pressure on a bike I was riding on say an 80 degree day it would be 31F, 26 rear. That will only work on the current Q2's, I run 29 rear in every other street rear. The tire is a big component of the way our bikes work, there simply is no way to discount the effect the tires had on your perception of how well our bikes work. Add to that I have experience with the other brands on the S1000RR so the only help i might be is to work with you at a school.

 

Thanks, Will

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Ferenc,

 

Sounds like you have far too low pressure in the front tyre as well. Over time, I have learned to tell if the front or rear is low by 2-3 psi.

The way I have learned it, is to observe "they this thing turns like "#¤!$" and then find that the front (or rear) is a bit low on pressure :)

 

 

Thanks KHP! You were right on the money. The front was off by 3 PSI and I realized I had reverted back to a habit CSS fixed, straddling the tank instead of sitting back a few inches. :D I also think the K3's just feel AWFUL until they're fully warmed.....

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You will get a lot of opinion about set-up and tire pressure but the simple fact is I run the Fleet bikes with the stock settings ( fork R 5, C 5, shock R 5-7, CH 5, CL 5-7). The tire pressure we use is 33/33 cold in the morning, that would be higher in the day. If I were setting pressure on a bike I was riding on say an 80 degree day it would be 31F, 26 rear. That will only work on the current Q2's, I run 29 rear in every other street rear. The tire is a big component of the way our bikes work, there simply is no way to discount the effect the tires had on your perception of how well our bikes work. Add to that I have experience with the other brands on the S1000RR so the only help i might be is to work with you at a school.

 

Thanks, Will

 

 

Thanks Will! Truly appreciate the information. I have set of Q2's on the way so I'll definitely use those pressures moving forward.:) Thanks again!

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