sifubs Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 I saw this on motomatters.com (http://www.motomatters.com/blog/2014/09/17/guest_blog_mat_oxley_a_new_way_of_riding.html). It reminds me of the hook turn technique taught at the superbike school. Here is an excerpt from the original article http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/motogp-race/a-new-way-of-riding-a-new-way-of-crashing/ : " A new way of riding, a new way of crashing Well, it appears that whoever coined the term ‘you can’t teach an old dog new tricks’ didn’t know what they were talking about. On Sunday in Italy a middle-aged man defeated a young phenomenon for several reasons. Firstly, he’s learned a new trick or two. I can only assume that Valentino Rossi discovered his new way of riding his Yamaha YZR-M1 by reading old copies of Grand Prix annual Motocourse because he seems to have adopted the outlandish riding style of 1990s BSB champ James Whitham. The Yorkshireman rode in a highly unusual fashion, with upper body completely out of line with the motorcycle, neck craning towards the inside of the corner, as if he was literally dragging his machine to the apex. Whitham developed that style while riding Suzuki’s recalcitrant 1992 GSX-R750 and it worked well for him in subsequent seasons. And now it seems to work just as well for Rossi who’s been thinking scientifically about what he can do to close the gap on young pup Marc Márquez, riding Honda’s quicker-steering RC213V. “If you want to stay on top you must look at what the fastest riders are doing,” Rossi affirms. “I now use more of the top of my body to move outside of the bike to improve turning. I watch and I try to modify my position on the bike and the movement of the bike. I now move forward more to avoid wheelies.”" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FieryRobot Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Great article! And yeah, that definitely sounds like hook turn type of stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faffi Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Look who you're calling middle-aged, punk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroker Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Wasn't Rossi the one who had the exaggerated body position in the first place? Remember then people thought he leaned the bike and hung off too much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rchase Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Neat. It's nice to know that EVERYONE is adapting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faffi Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Wasn't Rossi the one who had the exaggerated body position in the first place? Remember then people thought he leaned the bike and hung off too much? I think that was Doohan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroker Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 No.....look up videos of Rossi riding GP in 2000 etc.Marked difference to his rivals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmckeen Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Everyone always say's the new guy is doing it wrong, up until he starts winning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroker Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 I apologize.I just saw the Misano GP and see you alluded to hid body position in that race.Yes, he hung off more than usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faffi Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 No.....look up videos of Rossi riding GP in 2000 etc.Marked difference to his rivals. I will admit I fail to see that. He seems to be on par with some, hang off a bit more that others and more modern than riders like Abe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroker Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 I will get back to you on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktk_ace Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 just my 2c'sIm sure the COG of 2t 500cc racers and the current breed of 999CC motogp bikes are leagues apart. 4T engines are much more heavier than the 2T counterparts imho. Rossi is just adapting to a heavier machine for flipping the bike over in S turn corners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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