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Hi there. So, I'm struggling to accomplish every fast 90 degree (L) corners and looong ones as well, which doesn't need any braking inputs, but you still can drag your knee because steep lean angles must be reached. So here we go: when I get to the corner on WOT what should I do with the throttle? A ) chop the throttle and coast thru the corner using engine braking till apex and then follow throttle rule? B ) close 1/2 throttle (imagine a Motogp green throttle graph at half) and attack the corner? C ) keep it WOT and countersteer? D ) another alternative... And how should I lean into ir? A ) quick flick? B ) sorta lazy steer? C ) body steer? D ) ? Thank you.

Edwards and Hayden (north americans) are probably the only riders who holds themselves in the tank with legs while hard braking. Maybe it's USA school, USA characteristic. Almost all the other riders at MGP (europeans) holds themselves with their arms, and so far away from the tank that they even touches the tail with their arses. In my case, I feel MUCH more tired (muscle fatigue) when holding myself with legs. So, nowadays, I do like the pros: 100% arms (and at full lean, opposite foot plant sitting in the rearset, not ball of my feet - like the pros, much more confortable).

What does the Dunlop technician says about braking, at 1:15? English isnt my native language so Im having trouble to understand what he says from 1:15 to 1:21... seems important.

thanks HF, great info; I'll take a closer look at my forks and decide what kind of approach I'll use for slow turns (#1 is probably the winner).

my worrie with #1 is: when I let go the brakes for tip in, it automatically extends the forks which unloads the tire and you lose traction. when doing #3, I'm worrie about overloading front tire and wash out. with #2, I never had enough throttle control fineness to give handlebars inputs while crack open the throttle and keep it steady till apex. I already had an lowside at Interlagos Racetrack during a trackday (3 trackdays ago), but it happened because i gave too much throttle while leaned midcorner. Maybe this is killing my confidence...

Hi there. This is my first post but I've been watching this forum for a long time. Well, I'm also facing this "throttle before slow turns crysis", and I really need your help. So, I'm from Brazil and already did the Alex Barros Riding School (former brazilian MotoGP racer, I bet you remember him) and, after 7 trackdays, I still didnt decided how to proceed before slow turns. When I attack fast corners, its all pretty clear for me: slightly roll off the throttle and keep it steady while leaning/counter steering (same technique for downhill corners and for the second leg of an Esse), but, for slow corners, man, what a doubt. So, I'll tell you the approachs I've been trying, but still didnt felt confortable with neither. 1) Alex Barros: roll off while braking - till you reach zero throttle - let go your brakes, tip in, follow TCR1. Motovudu also states the same. 2) Dave Moss: same as Barros's teaches, but before you tip in, crack open the throttle, like a hair open, keep it steady till apex, and then follow TCR1. 3) Nick Ienatsch: roll off while braking, tip in with zero throttle & trailing the brakes till apex; then, follow TCR1. So, what do you guys use as an effective technique? I already try all above, but Im not really confident with none of them. This is killing me... I lose focus thinking about what technique should I use at each slow corner. I need to decide previously which one of them, so its one less thing to think about on my riding and have more fun. Thanks.