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Hi all,

 

After bouncing emails back and forth a month or so ago and making a call to the office today I am stoked to be signed up for Level 1 at new Jersey Motorsports Park in May of 2009.

I'm doing May 11th and my wife is doing May 12th so we can trade off watching our son.

It's a way off yet but I'm looking forward to it immensely.

 

So, to my question, but first a protracted explanation of why I am seeking help, especially now.

 

I rode a 2 day trackday at Barber in May just gone and had a great time and had no confidence issues at all and pushed harder than I've done on the bike before. Then I did a day at Pocono East and was rocking on until I put the rear out in a left hander (yeah what a surprise huh?...seeing as the place is virtually all left turns...lol). After that I felt the rear was constantly losing traction, not by much, but enough to unsettle me and worry me about being able to feed my little boy by the end of the day who was happily playing in our paddock spot at the time .

It may well have been a mental thing, my mind anticipating the point at which I lost traction before (it was a very near highside, the rear left a tidy looking darky and picked me up out of the seat when it regained grip), I dont know.

Since then I've had real issues getting into the groove in left's and my trust in fast turn in's and believing the rubber will stick is not so great.

I did 2 days at Mid O and did okay in right turns but my turn in was so slow that corner speed was poor, then when it came to the few lefts, particularly the one over the off camber rise (T7?) it was pitiful. I never use 'chicken strips' as a guide to my riding as there aren't normally any there for anyone after a day on the track, but after 2 days at Mid O and 1 at NJMP Thunderbolt there is clearly a good 1/4 to 3/8 inch of rubber untouched on the left.

 

If you're still with me, thank you.

 

So, my question; are fast/quick turn in's dealt with in Level 1? Is there anything that covers the mental approach in processing feedback from slippy tires and understanding what is okay and what will ultimately toss someone down the road? (I know there are variables that cannot be accounted for like track surface changes, different tires, ambient conditions etc)

I couldn't see any particular curriculum outlined on the website.

I was doing fine at the start of the year and ultimately sabbotaged my own riding the rest of this year by not controlling my demons within, I need to find my MoJo again and I hope CSS can help.

 

Thanks in advance and see you next year.

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Hi all,

 

After bouncing emails back and forth a month or so ago and making a call to the office today I am stoked to be signed up for Level 1 at new Jersey Motorsports Park in May of 2009.

I'm doing May 11th and my wife is doing May 12th so we can trade off watching our son.

It's a way off yet but I'm looking forward to it immensely.

 

So, to my question, but first a protracted explanation of why I am seeking help, especially now.

 

I rode a 2 day trackday at Barber in May just gone and had a great time and had no confidence issues at all and pushed harder than I've done on the bike before. Then I did a day at Pocono East and was rocking on until I put the rear out in a left hander (yeah what a surprise huh?...seeing as the place is virtually all left turns...lol). After that I felt the rear was constantly losing traction, not by much, but enough to unsettle me and worry me about being able to feed my little boy by the end of the day who was happily playing in our paddock spot at the time .

It may well have been a mental thing, my mind anticipating the point at which I lost traction before (it was a very near highside, the rear left a tidy looking darky and picked me up out of the seat when it regained grip), I dont know.

Since then I've had real issues getting into the groove in left's and my trust in fast turn in's and believing the rubber will stick is not so great.

I did 2 days at Mid O and did okay in right turns but my turn in was so slow that corner speed was poor, then when it came to the few lefts, particularly the one over the off camber rise (T7?) it was pitiful. I never use 'chicken strips' as a guide to my riding as there aren't normally any there for anyone after a day on the track, but after 2 days at Mid O and 1 at NJMP Thunderbolt there is clearly a good 1/4 to 3/8 inch of rubber untouched on the left.

 

If you're still with me, thank you.

 

So, my question; are fast/quick turn in's dealt with in Level 1? Is there anything that covers the mental approach in processing feedback from slippy tires and understanding what is okay and what will ultimately toss someone down the road? (I know there are variables that cannot be accounted for like track surface changes, different tires, ambient conditions etc)

I couldn't see any particular curriculum outlined on the website.

I was doing fine at the start of the year and ultimately sabbotaged my own riding the rest of this year by not controlling my demons within, I need to find my MoJo again and I hope CSS can help.

 

Thanks in advance and see you next year.

Chipster;

 

After numerous CSS events over the past 7 years as a student and as a Corner Worker, I re-took Level 1 at Infineon last week; every one of the concerns you mentioned are covered in Level 1. You will find your MoJo with the School taking Level 1...but don't rule out Levels 2, 3 & 4. They all build upon each other and if Level 1 helps you, the rest of the curriculum will amaze you.

 

I would also strongly recommend you get and read and then re-read the two Twist of the Wrist books and then read the Soft Science. All three are written by Keith Code and they will give you and your wife a solid foundation in the principles of cornering so that when you get to School, the concepts will be familiar.

 

Kevin

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Chipster;

 

After numerous CSS events over the past 7 years as a student and as a Corner Worker, I re-took Level 1 at Infineon last week; every one of the concerns you mentioned are covered in Level 1. You will find your MoJo with the School taking Level 1...but don't rule out Levels 2, 3 & 4. They all build upon each other and if Level 1 helps you, the rest of the curriculum will amaze you.

 

I would also strongly recommend you get and read and then re-read the two Twist of the Wrist books and then read the Soft Science. All three are written by Keith Code and they will give you and your wife a solid foundation in the principles of cornering so that when you get to School, the concepts will be familiar.

 

Kevin

 

 

 

 

Thanks for your input Kevin. The other levels are certainly not out of the question, it'd just be finances that dictate when and where.

 

I have Twist 2 (the book) and the DVD amongst many other publications. I think I might also get the audio discs for playing in the car during my commutes (we quit riding the street as the risk wasn't worth the reward, track only now).

Are there any major differences between Twist 1 and 2? Is 2 just a revised version?

I am eagerly anticipating next season, my 675 isn't liking the freezing temperatures outside and wants to be set free again (already...).

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Chipster;

 

After numerous CSS events over the past 7 years as a student and as a Corner Worker, I re-took Level 1 at Infineon last week; every one of the concerns you mentioned are covered in Level 1. You will find your MoJo with the School taking Level 1...but don't rule out Levels 2, 3 & 4. They all build upon each other and if Level 1 helps you, the rest of the curriculum will amaze you.

 

I would also strongly recommend you get and read and then re-read the two Twist of the Wrist books and then read the Soft Science. All three are written by Keith Code and they will give you and your wife a solid foundation in the principles of cornering so that when you get to School, the concepts will be familiar.

 

Kevin

 

 

 

 

Thanks for your input Kevin. The other levels are certainly not out of the question, it'd just be finances that dictate when and where.

 

I have Twist 2 (the book) and the DVD amongst many other publications. I think I might also get the audio discs for playing in the car during my commutes (we quit riding the street as the risk wasn't worth the reward, track only now).

Are there any major differences between Twist 1 and 2? Is 2 just a revised version?

I am eagerly anticipating next season, my 675 isn't liking the freezing temperatures outside and wants to be set free again (already...).

Where's that little button that allows me to secretly subscribe to this thread?

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Are there any major differences between Twist 1 and 2? Is 2 just a revised version?

Chipster;

 

Yes; like the School structure, Twist II builds upon Twist I and really has a lot of detail to help you prepare for next season.

As for your 675, my bikes are just as cold now.

 

Kevin

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Are there any major differences between Twist 1 and 2? Is 2 just a revised version?

Chipster;

 

Yes; like the School structure, Twist II builds upon Twist I and really has a lot of detail to help you prepare for next season.

As for your 675, my bikes are just as cold now.

 

Kevin

 

Hi Chipster,

 

Keith has 3 books, and they are all different. He is not one to re-hash something. Twist 1 and 2 are totally different, cover completely different material (as does Soft Sciene).

 

Cheap way to learn stuff, the books are excellent sources.

 

Cf

 

ps--welcome to the forum, hadn't seen your posts before (just back from the track last night).

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Are there any major differences between Twist 1 and 2? Is 2 just a revised version?

Chipster;

 

Yes; like the School structure, Twist II builds upon Twist I and really has a lot of detail to help you prepare for next season.

As for your 675, my bikes are just as cold now.

 

Kevin

 

Hi Chipster,

 

Keith has 3 books, and they are all different. He is not one to re-hash something. Twist 1 and 2 are totally different, cover completely different material (as does Soft Sciene).

 

Cheap way to learn stuff, the books are excellent sources.

 

Cf

 

ps--welcome to the forum, hadn't seen your posts before (just back from the track last night).

 

 

Hi Cobie, thanks for the welcome. Also, thanks for responding to an email I sent you a good few months ago, on a Sunday no less.....now that is dedication. That combined with the way Echo has helped me in the office this last week has me loving CSS already, makes me even more eager to get to NJ in May already..... and to think my Mum told me to never wish my life away. I didn't mean to sound like I was inferring that I thought Twist 2 is a rehashed Twist 1, I just wanted to get some more info on it as Twist 2 is such a complete book and doesn't read as though it is a continuation from the prior book. I guess I'll be putting Twist 1 on my ever increasing Christmas Wish List now. Haha..How was Laguna?

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Are there any major differences between Twist 1 and 2? Is 2 just a revised version?

Chipster;

 

Yes; like the School structure, Twist II builds upon Twist I and really has a lot of detail to help you prepare for next season.

As for your 675, my bikes are just as cold now.

 

Kevin

 

Hi Chipster,

 

Keith has 3 books, and they are all different. He is not one to re-hash something. Twist 1 and 2 are totally different, cover completely different material (as does Soft Sciene).

 

Cheap way to learn stuff, the books are excellent sources.

 

Cf

 

ps--welcome to the forum, hadn't seen your posts before (just back from the track last night).

 

 

Hi Cobie, thanks for the welcome. Also, thanks for responding to an email I sent you a good few months ago, on a Sunday no less.....now that is dedication. That combined with the way Echo has helped me in the office this last week has me loving CSS already, makes me even more eager to get to NJ in May already..... and to think my Mum told me to never wish my life away. I didn't mean to sound like I was inferring that I thought Twist 2 is a rehashed Twist 1, I just wanted to get some more info on it as Twist 2 is such a complete book and doesn't read as though it is a continuation from the prior book. I guess I'll be putting Twist 1 on my ever increasing Christmas Wish List now. Haha..How was Laguna?

To bounce off Chipster's question, I have T2 and T1DVD. Should I invest in T1book or do I already have the same material on DVD?

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To bounce off Chipster's question, I have T2 and T1DVD. Should I invest in T1book or do I already have the same material on DVD?

 

Well, you are talking to about the most biased person in the country :), but here you go: The DVD for T-1, was state of the art when made, and full of good data (and handsome fellows too--oh, excuse me, I don't think my face is ever in there:), just some riding.

 

Kidding aside the books have more data. The comments by Eddie Lawson have value to me too. Keith goes over a concept, then one of the all time greatest riders puts his piece in there. Maybe not a big deal, but valuable to mel, and just because the bikes are 20 years old, doesn't mean the material isn't current. The books are also easier to refer to. Just flip open a chapter, have a look (it happens a lot mroe than I stick the DVD in).

 

My dos centavos.

 

CF

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