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Posts posted by Cobie Fair
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The guys at Catalyst Reaction are good too.
CF
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Good photos/comparison. Wish for one more with the riders upper body to the inside and also down lower...see how that correlates to the change in CG.
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Yeah, it's pretty good overall pace there, long fast front straight. A staff favorite.
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Pretty dang good list from Misti, hard to top.
My kids don't ride!
Kids in the city these days, things are changing. I did a career day, took one of the School S1000rr's and went to my daughter's school, rode the bike right up to the classroom, and rode it down the (exterior) hallway when I left, daughter on back.
The point is, aside from entertaining myself at her school, when I asked how many rode bicycles, the majority said no...wow, blew me away.
CF
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Fascinating...I think we adjust a lot of levers.
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1:55, that won't be for the North Course, maybe the full course.
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This foot position thread got me thinking about hand position. For a long time didn't seem to be a big issue, but as we've delved into it, there more pieces to that puzzle too. Often we see the front brake lever in a position that is not easy to reach, either too high, or too low. Then we hear about riders not being able to roll the throttle all the way (one guy told me in the middle of a roll on he had to re-grip!).
So to start out, I'd like to ask a few survey questions:
1. How many pay any attention to your had position, or is this a virtual non-issue?
2. How many have had any issues with control actions of their hands: hard to reach brake, use throttle effectively/easily (or even clutch).
Let's start with that, see what we get.
CF
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Interesting to see all this stuff...got me thinking about hands...I'll start another thread on that.
CF
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Even in dirt riding (the little I do/have done) I end up with my feet on the balls...find it easier to stand and move around.
Same on the street/road bike, find it easier to move, and don't want that inside foot a draggin...for sure at least one coach I can think of has his outside food on the arch.
I also have very short legs, so it helps with anchoring.
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Just made some more updates to the software...
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Sorry for the tardy response, been gone doing schools--and i hate typing on a phone.
Hanging off too much really is a lot of work, and in many cases not worth it. What is not often understood is that the really core techniques can work so well, and are actually more important than a lot of body off the bike.
Here is one sample: a few years back, senior coach following a junior coach, same bike. Rider in front had a knee down in every turn. Riding in back was sitting on top of the bike, no hang off to be seen with the lower body. A good overall body position, but also good turning skills (using less lean angle), good approach to the turn and maximizing them (in Level 3), and good throttle control, giving the bike even more ground clearance (Level 1 of course). This isn't a sales pitch, just where the skills are taught.
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Dang...
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Based on what's been happening in off season testing, how do you think'll go?
How will the new guys fare? (meaning new to their bikes). Will Marquez come out and demoralize them? Rossi start strong (hard to bet against him). Lorenzo on the Duc? Vinales?
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Forcefield has a chest protector too, not part of the shirt.
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Good list!
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Nice, I was at that one, pretty sure.
I don't think this is the same race, pretty sure it was a few years later (but still the same track/race put on my the Yamaha dealers I think).
Good job on finding this!
CF
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One can also just lower the upper body, leave the lower in place...covered in detail in Level 3.
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I'll be very interested to see these!
Bamboo...amazing.
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It does pose an interesting question about electronics, doesn't it? And modern electronics can be very, very good.
One plus is is can give the rider an idea of what the bike wants.
And it can always be turned off. I've had a number of coaches do just that. In fact, we have some good racers coming to our race school this next week, I'm going to see where he puts the settings.
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Yes, amazingly impressive.
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Not exactly, it was out of what is now turn 10, before turn 11. Back then, it was turns 8 and 9.
The track didn't have the current turn 2-4, it was a pretty fast turn 2 and rejoined at what is now turn 5.
Not sure the exact year the track was changed, we could find out though...
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I didn't see any of either Hailwoood, or Ago...but wish I had.
I did see Kenny (Sr.). He set the bar in many ways, but here is one (I maybe mentioned this before...it's a favorite):
At the races at Laguna Seca, back when the GP guys would come to a non-GP race in US, Kenny and the boys would put on a show, and keep the pace so the local guys could hang with them for a while. At the time "local" was guys like Mike Baldwin (4 time US champion in the GP equivalent class), Rainey, etc.
I was watching in what would have been T-10 (but this was before the infield, so it was T-8). Kenny wheelied past Mike Baldwin, as Mike was on brakes for T-9! WTF! Awesome to see that command of the machine, a whole level above one of the top guys in the US at the time.
Kenny even hired Mike to ride for him later on his team in Europe.
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But traction control, that's a big deal...
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Or stick it up for all to see!
Lowering the body
in Cornering and Techniques
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In the photos above, the one with the rider down low, it was brought up that his head (and maybe a little of the torso) is not as far to the inside. I think that is where diff in lean angle comes from.
As for street applicablity, I for sure don't hang off when riding on the street (w/lower body). One reason is I'm just too lazy. But...if one can take out some lean angle (use less), and in particular do it quickly if needed by getting the upper body more to the inside, this can be a good thing: water across the road, sand/dirt, or some other traction reducing issue.