fossilfuel
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You don't even have my age right. My wife says I am 12.
Can't joke around anymore....convenient huh! I've got to bone up on Twist II!
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"She's kinda relentless, isn't she?" Yeah, she is relentless! She's the kinda person I would trust wheel to wheel, elbow to elbow......but only for a second then I would have to pass her! Yeah Baby!
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Hotfoot,
If I had known that you were going to challenge me to these events I would have gotten three jobs to pay for all this. I guess it's never to late to pick up cans on the side of the road! I wish I could go back to Laguna Seca and the Code Race is definitely something I would like to do but the wife is starting to get a little irritated!
4-Nesba weekends
1-Sportbike Track Time weekend
1-Keith Code Laguna Seca (I don't think she should give me hell about a week in Monterey?)
1-WERA race weekend (Pirelli Series)
Pending Events
1-WERA National Series weekend
1-Jennings GP day
1-NESBA November Weekend
Oh yeah, I forgot I'm going to pick up a motorcycle this weekend only 19 hour drive one way and I have a tryout coming up. So yeah maybe after the divorce!
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This thread is not long enough. I thought we were going to set some sort of record? I'm actually doing nothing and I am going to miss a track weekend at Barber this weekend. I am going to New York state to pick up a motorcycle I have always wanted.....anyway, I saw we had something like +6000 hits on this thread. Nice work Domina! I always have ti have the last word.
P.S. Would love to get back out to Laguna for another school! Maybe we could find a better place to stay this time!
Well, did you see they added a 2 day camp at Laguna Seca over Thanksgiving? If I read it right, it's school on Wednesday, day off for Thanksgiving on Thursday, then school again on Friday. Sounds like fun, I think you should rent a house and host a big Thanksgiving dinner for everyone on Thursday!!!
Oh, by the way, FossilFuel, I am booked for CodeRace Oct 26-27th, are you up for it?
I believe I would be better off if I had a tent out at the track instead of what happened last time! I would really, really like to ride and the Code Race sounds great but I have a WERA race September 12th and 13th and I plan on placing in Senior Superbike. There maybe other plans that might work out but I will have to wait and see. Hotfoot, please do not tell me about this stuff. It is killing me!
Hope to see you guys soon.
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Hub,
That is really great that you are going. Just one bit of advice, live in the moment! This school is all about here and now. From the time you walk up the steps of the trailer to get a cup of coffee until you get your last days certificate, take it all in. It really is a very enjoyable experience. Have fun.
FF
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This thread is not long enough. I thought we were going to set some sort of record? I'm actually doing nothing and I am going to miss a track weekend at Barber this weekend. I am going to New York state to pick up a motorcycle I have always wanted.....anyway, I saw we had something like +6000 hits on this thread. Nice work Domina! I always have ti have the last word.
P.S. Would love to get back out to Laguna for another school! Maybe we could find a better place to stay this time!
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I'm sure I was doing it wrong then. There are no trackdays right now, but next Sunday when I go practice, I'll experiment. I'm going to try getting my wife in the habit of doing everything I'm teaching her with more speed. I'll have an opportunity to give this a shot. How much weight do you think you put on the inside when going in? More than a 50/50 ratio? I've done that as well, and it is alright, but I still have trouble getting into optimum BP. Where are you when you transfer your weight back to the outside? Thinking about it, I'd think it would be a transition while the bike is going over during your initial dip, with a transfer of weight back to the outside for optimum control.
The thing about the weigh amount is probably 80% on the inside peg. I get as close as possible to the tank. I mean snug so that I can hold with the opposite thigh against the tank. You have all your thigh against the tank and it is so much easier to keep weight off the bars and on the inside peg when you can hold on with that much surface area. I have tried pushing my knee into the tank but you have to push with the outside leg and for me that is brutal. I felt very awkward at first doing this because I am 6'2" tall. I feel like I am am hanging out over the front of the bike but the proof is in the times.
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I was putting my weight on the inside peg, and trying to hold my body up while leaning in that direction. I had to hold on to the bars to stay on the bike, and couldn't get proper lock in on the outside. I couldn't relax my inside leg as I like to do. Maybe I was doing it wrong, but, as mentioned in another post just started, I love the Pivot Steering style. I can lock my outside leg in and just lean my body off the bike. It's smoother for me. I can loosen up my hands on the bar, and that makes my steering smoother.
When I'm locked in on the outside and am coming out of the corner, I use the motion of the bike to get be back in the seat, or to the other side for another corner. If you're weight is on the inside, you have to lift yourself back into the seat.
I was in a situation where I was having a hard time getting that extra second. I started weighting the inside peg and holy ######, the times were there. You do have to try and get comfortable with position to do it but once your there its like taking the training wheels off. I had heard that some coaches teach weighting the outside peg and was wondering about that. I thought maybe the thinking was that if you pushed hard on the outside peg at exit, you would be helping to transfer the weight to a more upright position. So, it could be an aid or enhancement to pivot steering....I don't know just asking. Anything I can come up with to go faster, you know?
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I'm a more weight on the outside through the turn kinda guy. I've tried with the weight on the inside for a whole trackday, and it was a fight all the way through. The way I look at it is that if you have your weight on the inside, you're pushing the bike down. Weight on the outside, and you're laying it down.
Why was it a fight? I have gained a significant improvement in lap times that seem to point to weighting the inside peg? I have heard that some coaches teach weighting the outside peg for exit. Is this to help stand the bike up so one can get on the gas quicker. I was wondering?
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Ok all you boys and girls,
The question is, I put all my weight on the inside peg for corner entry. Do I weight the outside peg for exit? Where is the weight most needed?
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Yes it is, don't use it. I'm sorry. Let me clarify. I was using oxygenated fuel and left it in a plastic container for storage, big mistake. The recommendation by the fuel guys is to immediately siphon it from your tank after every use and store in the original metal container. That means at the track siphon all fuel, run engine until completely burned out of injectors. I hope i'm not saying something you already know. Anyway, I decided that the fuel was to much of a pain in the butt for me so I quit using it.
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Last year I ran Pilot Power Race's at 29F 26R cold on a GSXR 1000. Excellent grip. I cornerworked four days with those tires in May, then rode one hot lunch session and then Level 1 in Sept. and never had a bit of a problem. Only ran fasters times on the Dunlop G-tech slicks.
Had crazy grip and excellent life on the Power Races. Been racing Dunlops this year and just haven't felt the same with them. Not sure why cause I know alot of people like em.
Now if Cobie would just shoot over some N-tecs...
Hotfoot and Fossil, good luck with your coach try-out! If you make it just make sure you stay in the books!
Derek,
I ran Pilot Power Race and loved them. I rode cold tire pressure of like 28 front 25 rear....only problem I had was wear. At the time I was riding an RC51 (tire eater)! The tire I do not like is the new Power One "V" profile. I do not have anything against any other Michelin tire I have ever used and probably should have put in a disclaimer ahead of time to that effect. I went to Barber this weekend and put in one personal best lap after another on my Dunlop slicks. I was riding faster this weekend on the Dunlop slicks with no issues with max lean angle. The only problem I have now is that they are not making the slick I am using anymore so I am thinking about going back to the new Sportmax and changing my geometry a little to suit that tire.
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Thanks Man! I am going to stick with Dunlops. I know how they work and what tire pressures to use...If I go down on these there will be no crying.
Are you on a 600 or 1000?
CF
Cobie,
THe 600 is still in intensive care. I road the 1000 with the Dunlop slicks.
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I DID IT! The second session of the first day...1:40.93, 1:40.88, missed a lap 1:41.23, 1:40.77 then a 1:40.26. It was very hot, about 98 ambient. I had to take a couple of cold showers between sessions to cool down. I started slowing down a bit after lunch and couldn't break the 1:41 mark. I had a plan for Sunday to come out the first session and get loose, find a couple of 1:35-1:39 riders and hitch a tow. I was on my way when the rider in front of me through up a hand with mechanical problems and put me off the pace...I finished with a 1:40.22. I started making mistakes in the third session after lunch with a couple of missed shifts. The tires were starting to feel a little greasy with the heat of the track so I called it a weekend. There is just so many Bananas, potassium, gatorade and water one can drink and when you're done you're done. This was a goal so now on to the 1:39's at Barber.
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Yes, I am headed to Barber a little later in the day for two days of well deserved track time with my NESBA brothers and sisters. The weather maybe a little warm but I am expecting good things from my Dunlop tires and a hot track..I need to set a personal best this weekend! I will need a 1:40 or better to place in the Senior Superbike class at the WERA Nationals in September. GET R DONE!
Good luck with it mate, make sure you keep it shiny side up though eh?
Let us know how you get on with experimenting with tyre pressures.
Bullet
Thanks Man! I am going to stick with Dunlops. I know how they work and what tire pressures to use...If I go down on these there will be no crying.
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Yes, I am headed to Barber a little later in the day for two days of well deserved track time with my NESBA brothers and sisters. The weather maybe a little warm but I am expecting good things from my Dunlop tires and a hot track..I need to set a personal best this weekend! I will need a 1:40 or better to place in the Senior Superbike class at the WERA Nationals in September. GET R DONE!
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Cobie,
the factory recommendation is 31 cold for the front. I checked my tire pressure before I removed the tire warmer for crash run and the front tire pressure was 36 psi. I am sure they got hotter and harder after 10 laps. I thought it was high myself. I dont feel comfortable running that high of a pressure in a hot tire.
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Hotfoot is going well, going to give her a coach tryout pretty soon I think.
Tires--seems like the Michelins for years have had good grip, but let go pretty quick. The Dunlops have had more a reputation for giving you lots of warning.
Haven't done any days on Michelins lately, nor raced on them lately, so no real opinion there. The Qualifiers as an all-round tire are pretty amazing though. With the right PSI in them, traction is pretty amazing.
CF
I think Hotfoot would make an outstanding coach! I know a mature guy from South Alabama that might be good at that. He said he feels very comfortable on Dunlop tires and green is his favorite color!
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Hotfoot is going well, going to give her a coach tryout pretty soon I think.
Tires--seems like the Michelins for years have had good grip, but let go pretty quick. The Dunlops have had more a reputation for giving you lots of warning.
Haven't done any days on Michelins lately, nor raced on them lately, so no real opinion there. The Qualifiers as an all-round tire are pretty amazing though. With the right PSI in them, traction is pretty amazing.
CF
Thanks Cobie. I'm sticking with Dunlop.
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Hotfoot,
Your glad and I'm glad that your glad! I have been wondering if I was crazy! When I got back in the paddock one of the guys asked me if I had scuffed them in. But you have to ride on the rim to get these things scuffed in to the edges and I think that might be a problem. I looked at the front tire since it needed to come off a bent marchesini rim anyway and noticed that the side walls didn't scuff in as close to the edge as my Dunlops or other brands I have used in the past. After 10 laps of hard breaking at an Advance level pace, these things should have been hot and scuffed. I'm done with these tires. I am not against Michelin as I loved my power race tires but these suck.
You remember how cold it was at Leguna Seca? 49 degrees with a northwest wind 49mph. We were on Dunlop Qualifiers with no warmers and no issues....Thanks for your post and I hope to see you and your Hubby again.
P.S. Tell me again how you loved your Barber Code school.
P.S.S. I run Dunlop Race slicks 120/70/17 and 195/70/17. Check with your Dunlop Rep. The SportMax are what many of the WERA guys use.
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Fossil,
Sorry about your getoff. The worse part is that in your mind the only change is the tires, so I'm sure that you're blaming them. And for all we know if could be a problem tire. Or could be a problem tire for YOUR SETUP.
Tires and bikes are developed together. Engineers compute this stuff and spit out some numbers and blah, blah, blah. Then the suspension geometry, springs and damping setting needs to be tweaked. You went from a round profile to a V profile tire. At a minimum you should measure the tire's circumference (even when using same brand and type tires) and make small changes to reset your geometry to your known baseline.
I'm not sure if you made a typo in your writeup but you interchanged 31psi cold with 31psi hot. There's also a mention of 36psi. If you set your tire at 36cold, I'd imagine that's too high. Even at my slow speeds (LOL) I run 31psi cold front on my Pilot Powers for track, and they stick like glue.
But as Kevin says, YRMV
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When I run Dunlop slicks the tire pressure for the front is 31 psi hot. My tire wear looks fine.
The cold pressure on the Michelins was 31psi which gave me a 36psi tire pressure hot on the front tire. This tire pressure is much higher than I am used to running but Michelin does not give hot pressures for these tires...a big secret.
Also, the profile of the "V" tires makes it hard to scuff in the edges. This was something that I noticed when I looked at the tires after the crash truck brought it in (funny!).
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I had a spectacular low side at Barber during WERA race practice a few weeks ago. I was not on my normal "Dunlop race slicks". I was in a bind and a friend ordered Michelin Power One V-profile. The manufacturer states the cold tire pressure is 31 psi. Michelin does not give hot tire pressures. I had put about ten laps on the tires. I ususally try to get about three laps on a new set before I consider them "scuffed" in. So the front probably was about 36 psi. I was passing on the outside using "maintenance throttle" when the front just went, no warning at all. Unfortunately for me the bike caught on the track, went up in the air and flipped twice before hitting the ground. I had a front row seat.
I normally run Dunlop slicks with hot tire pressure of 31 psi front and 30 psi rear. I have been to Barber probably 35 times and never had an issue in turn two. I know, there is always a first time.
I love my Dunlop tires and after the crash all I could think about was the tires because in my mind it was unlikely after all the riding and race schools I have been to that I caused the low side mid corner.
The questions that run through your mind: Was it a light front end, a seam, marbles on the track, to much pressure on the bars, tire pressure or unfamiliar tire profile? These are the kinds of questions you ask yourself after the fact. It is really hard to do analysis when your trying to pass and maybe that is where more errors occur because you get tunnel vision and lose "feel"
I know that three other guys low sided in turn 2 at Barber and two were on Michelin Power Ones with the "V" profile. When I came back in to the paddock several racers commented on the tires. One guy said " He only new two top racers that could ride on them". I talked to the Dunlop tire rep and he said "off the record" you know what he said.
So, I guess it is hard for me to admit that I made a bad input. I mean I was smooooth and still can't believe it happened but....Do tires make a difference? Does 31 psi hot vs 36 psi hot make that much of a difference? Does tire profile make a difference?
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You would think that Sheehan would actually watch previous WSBK races so perhaps he would have a clue to know how to pronounce most of the names of the top riders. I lost count with how many different pronunciations he had of "Sofuoglu" and I don't think any of them were correct. I was dumbfounded at how annoyed I felt listening to the commentary from both Sheehan and Russell. Then listening to that in stark contrast to this weeks 250 MotoGP race with all the excitement in the last lap, and there is no comparison.
Nothing against Russell's achievements, but a commentator he does not make. Some people can either carry an environment with their voice and others simply can't. I almost miss Freddy Spencer, even with his overly opinionated approach to critiquing technique and preaching trail braking, we was much more interesting to listen to and I felt there there was much to be learned from his perspective.
THE GOOD NEWS HOWEVER: They are losing the format of AMA Pro Primetime and going back to showing the AMA races in the same format that they did last year, oddly enough the same way we see the rest of the races. No more trying to keep my head in the dirt for weeks to watch a race without knowing the outcome.
Best regards,
-scott
I just watched the 1000cc race at Road America on "AMA Prime Time" Russel and a new announcer, Greg. They went on and on about how Michael Laverty finished second at Miller..except that it was Eugene Laverty who finished 2nd. Michael Laverty finished 17th. What the f...! Russel was there. He should know better.
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Cobie said you were relentless. I was sucking up and agreed. I hope to see you on the track soon.