fossilfuel
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Welcome Dustin,
Barber was where I attended my first Keith Code school. You will be fine but I think you are going to have somewhat of an advantage for the no brakes drill on a 250.
I have given this advice before so here it goes again. Free your mind of what you think you know and open your mind to the instruction you will get. Because you are an accomplished rider, you might think what you are doing is unnecessary or you might try to look past a drill in hopes of getting where you think you should be. Relax, Relax, Relax. Be conscious of the experince and don't let one drill pass with out your complete participation. Barber is a beautiful track, CSS is a first class outfit and I promise you will have a great experience. So don't get in a hurry or the day will be over to soon.
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Ladies and Gentlemen,
twenty nine days
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Wow, thanks for posting those, clearly a picture is worth a thousand words.
You sure have made me appreciate living in California!!!!
I personally would like a little weather out here...but not when going to the track!
A little weather. Thats what vacations are for!
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We had a great time loading the bikes into our trailers. I might call you guys to see what I need to do to post a picture. I tried using photo bucket but couldn't get it to work..
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I liked the 07. I rode it at Streets Of Willow last year and had a great time. I think Peter Lentz only passed me once.
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That just sucks. Hope you can get someone to help you post a pic or two though.
I will post when I get home this evening...I can't get link to photo bucket url from work.
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So......don't keep us in suspense. How did it go?
It sucked!!! I wish I knew how to post a picture because I have a classic.
We got to Barber Saturday evening and set up. Sunday morning there was a blanket of snow on the ground. By 11:00 the snow was really coming down. I had a buddy that brought his two kids and they were making a snowman.
The good thing was that all my hardcore riding buddies showed up. We drank coffee and watched it snow. We even rode our track bikes in the paddock just so we could say we rode in the snow at Barber. I have a great group picture to put on the motorcycle wall in my garage. I know in the future someone will ask "Whats the story with this picture?"
Barber is a beautiful facility when its green but you should see it covered in snow. There are sculptures all over the grounds. The three riders at the museum, statues of motorcycle god's on wheels, were blanketed with snow. Even they would not ride this day.
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So......don't keep us in suspense. How did it go?
It sucked!!! I wish I knew how to post a picture because I have a classic.
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I have one that is one rider following another. Really shows the track opening up. I had to reboot it a couple times, but it came up.
http://revver.com/video/688373/ride-around...2008-yamaha-r6/
Thanks Man...That is a really good video. Thanks for posting it. Did you notice the guy hanging off in front? What about the R6? He was really busy shifting. Thanks again.
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Thanks Guys. I was hoping that it was still possible to get the tires warmed up enough to get some grip. I appreciate the comments. YOu have made me feel more confident.
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I would like to trust what I have learned at CSS enough to be able to turn in and carry enough speed to get real feedback from the front tire. I want to know what that feels like....I have felt the back end travel on me, I have felt the bike squat in cambered turns, but not the front really working hard in the corner. So I need to improve on the mental side going past my comfort zone and enter a new one.
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Thanks Domina! I am going in April. This is the best I have seen so far. I have also been doing some laps on my MotoGP 08 PS3 game...
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Well guy's and Girl's this weekend is my first track day of the year at Barber. I have signed up the last four years and it has been cold but not like it is supposed to be Sunday...snow showers in the morning, partly cloudy by noon with a high of 44 degrees. I am hoping that the track will be dry by the time I ride but I have never ventured out on a track this cold before. Some people say don't ride below 50 and I have heard that the only real concern is keeping warm. Any hard core polar bears out there with some advice?
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Hey Fossil,
OK, here's what's on the page:
"...as you stand it up onto the larger-diameter center of the tire, the revs will go down."
There's more to it, but it's where JB said, page 21, T-2.
CF
Wow! How simple was that. I was wondering though, after ten Keith Code schools aren't you supposed to get a free book or something?
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Fossilfuel, (et al),
One minor point in gearing, and I'm trying to recall exactly where it is, but KC has in the books some info on what happens when the bike goes from upright to turned in, and how that also raises the RPMs--do you guys recall where this was, pretty sure T-2?
CF
I'm sure it's in T2 (don't have mine with me at work to find Chapter/ Verse), but I thought I read that it causes the RPM to go down a bit.
When the bike goes from upright to turned in--RPM doesn't go down. Anyone find it yet?
CF
See Paragraph 3, PG 21 of T2.
Hey we are in a recession for God's sake! I can't afford a trip to Laguna Seca and the book. Can you paraphrase?
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Fossilfuel, (et al),
One minor point in gearing, and I'm trying to recall exactly where it is, but KC has in the books some info on what happens when the bike goes from upright to turned in, and how that also raises the RPMs--do you guys recall where this was, pretty sure T-2?
CF
I'm sure it's in T2 (don't have mine with me at work to find Chapter/ Verse), but I thought I read that it causes the RPM to go down a bit.
When the bike goes from upright to turned in--RPM doesn't go down. Anyone find it yet?
CF
The rpm should go up because one should be on the throttle.
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Keith,
Thanks for the post. You are so right. I do not mind being at the rev limiter in some situations. The one thing that drives me in this endeavor is to be smooth but with maximum power. I am trying to be efficient with the use of gearing and power to maximize speed in places that can make a difference, where throttle control comes in to play. My goal this year is to cut two seconds off my current fastest lap time.
On the track and in many other sports youth masks mistakes. I am at the age where the margin of error is much smaller. I have to be better prepared.
An example of my perspective on this subject might be the drive out of a corner. The gearing calculator I found would prove this to be true. Say the bikes were the same, a CBR1000RR, there is a 60 mph turn and one has stock sprockets 16/42 this is 6000 rpm in second gear. if ones sprockets have been changed to 15/46 the rpm is 7000 in second gear. If the rear sprocket is increased to 48 the rpm at 60 mph is 8000 rpm. From apex to corner exit the 8000 rpm setting should be the fastest? I'm in the power baby! I don't care that the bike will not go 180 mph if the fastest straight is 140 mph. But one corner does not make a track. This is just an example.
I would think that evaluating the track, corner speed, and picking the right gearing would be a big advantage. I am no expert and for the accomplished racer this may be a mute point but for me this means making up time in a safe controlled manner.
This thread has really helped. Thanks to all of you for posting.
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I found a web sight that has a gearing calculator for CBR1000RR 04-07. One puts in the sproket sizes and wheel diameter and it spits out a chart with speed and rpm range for each gear. This was what I was looking for.
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I friend let me take his CBR600RR to the track. I road my CBR1000RR and his. After the day was over I wanted a 600. If the economy wasn't in such a free fall I would already have one. The energy it took to ride his 600 was so much less than trying to pull my 1000 through the corners. I would not be nearly as tired after a two day event on a 600. The other thing is I love to work a motorcycle so the upshifting and down shifting on the track is a treat for me.
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YoYoDyne
"All CNC machined in aluminum, the new push-pull throttle kit is a required accessory for racers that want only the best for their motorcycle. Thanks to the ability to change the cams inside that modify the speed of the push-pull throttle, everybody can find the right combination of speed and control. The new design with bigger rotors can be installed on each bike with any problems with the 2 cables that are include in the kit that fit. The push-pull throttle kit can be installed with Run/Stop-Start switch for bikes that originally come with this control integrated in the throttle housing."
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Hey Cobie,
I am using the clutchless upshift so this is not a problem. You taught me this as well as blipping the throttle. Thanks. I am going to research the gearing more and in the mean time go faster!!!
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Thanks Guys! Great information. I appreciate all the feedback. This just gives me more of an excuse to sign up for more track days so I can experiment with set up.
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I have a tendancy to use sarcasm sometime so please forget about the Nicky Hayden analogy! I do not or will I ever shift mid corner.......I have been to many Keith Code schools and wouldn't want my coaches to think I wasn't paying attention so if you are a coach and reading this, don't panic. I'm not suggesting anything stupid. I am actually talking about the shift before the turn.
What I have noticed is that I have been running out of gear close to the end of the straight ( two of these at Barber between 4 and 5 and 6 and 7) with no time for the needed next shift so instead of trying to gear from a 3.0 to something higher and make another shift nearer the middle of the straight I should go down to a 2.9 to stretch out the gear for the end of the straight? I'm going next weekend and was thinking about changing my current set up.
Somethings are easy to understand and somethings raise more questions for me like primary and final drive gearing. I feel like Forrest Gump.
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Was that picture taken at "No Problem" race way? .