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That's the problem.I cannot.Which is why i ask noobish questions here.

India.Bad place to be a biker unless you are loaded.

To be honest, i could make only three passes or so of the turn.I got my upper body down, as in diagonally downward into the ground.The first time, i sat upright and took the turn at like 80kph.The second time, a bit of attention was taken up getting my bum off, so i was on the brakes longer and did the turn at 60 or so and went wide a bit.The last time, i entered slower, but got the upper body diagonally down.how much i don't know.My friend said this time there was like 5 inches between the ground and the pegs, which was slightly better than the previous two. If i had a bike to practice with, my questions would be fewer.Without a bike, i have to ask others who have one.WRT max lean, i aim to get there because in doing so i would have to perfect all the lean in between upright and max lean, plus the accompanying throttle control, body positioning, trail braking and what not. I am not one of those guys wanting to hang off for show.

HF, no access to dirt bikes here.They aren't sold here.I will try lean while simultaneously making progress with throttle control.

The only road i could practice on had a few fallen leaves on it.Otherwise, it is good tarmac.Like i said, i want to be able to lean the bike, regardless of whether i can use it right away or not.

I could only lock my upper thigh, it was a standard.I want to hit max lean as a confidence building measure, not as a rule.I have read the books and seen the dvd.It tried leaning it at an isolated spot, but there were fallen leaves on the ground so i didn't push it. I get my turning done using as little lean as possible.We have bad roads and there is a lot of dust on them.I want to learn how to lean it though.Might not use it, but want to learn.

I rode a friend's bike yesterday.I found - I achieved the same lean angle when seated upright and when i kinda hung off.How do i properly hang off? A sequence of instructions please. What i did - Braked, downshifted, ( was a right turn ) got right cheek off, countersteered and leaned the bike in.Was a little messy.I think i charged the turn.I don't have a bike to practice with, so i have very little seat time. However, my friend said i leaned the bike the same whether i hung off or not, and there was half a foot to go before the pegs scraped.How do i confidently go to max lean while hanging and also when upright?

On no, not a substitute but a supplement.Just as track riders ride dirt bikes to touch up,so also this i think.I guess braking skills are improved and can be carried over for the track.

No how about this? People ask you a question, on video so you can see what is going on.And you can post a reply here, or you can make a little video your self in reply.

Damn! And she is a novice!! I must follow this thing closely.I see it as a way to tremendously improve skills with little investment, don't you think? No track required.Just some empty space and a host of skills get worked on.Thank you so much LNew.

Do you offer lessons via skype? lol

One question.How do i learn how to do this? The bikes here make about 15-20 horse and have bad grip and basic suspension.But damn, can he flick a bike.That is precisely what i was asking.How to get to max lean without hanging off, like he did.He did a u-turn in such a small space.How do i do all that he did? Extreme countersteer? Can any of you do what he did?

If you see the twist 2 dvd, there are three characters.The pro on the harley and the two noobs on sport bikes.They show how the pro is faster on his cruiser than the noobs because of throttle control.When the pro takes the corners, he grinds the pegs while remaining seated upright and not moving his knees.How do i do that?

Well i put my knee out a bit but is there any way i can go max lean without getting my knee down and out?

ON sport bikes, it is easier to get your knee to the ground because of the way they are designed.On standards it is more difficult and you might scrape the hard parts a bit.On cruisers, you will most certainly grind away the peg feelers before you can get your knee down. Now i don't have knee protection.How do i get the bike at max lean, ie grind the pegs, without getting my knee down?On standards and sportbikes, not cruisers. Do i counter steer but not move my ass off the seat? As in remain in position but lean my body sitting straight, like the tower of Pisa?

You can throttle until the bike is unproductively unstable.How you judge this is up to you.

If your ON the Gas, a slight roll off, if your OFF the gas a small blip Which is what i was asking.Thank you all.

So you say downshift in the moment you roll off before you blip? (You roll off a bit before you blip right?) In that small an interval or the same interval as an upshift roll off?

HF, short shift ( to me ) means skipping gears through the box, ie instead of 1,2,3 going 1,3 and not running second at all.But shifting early can also be considered " short " in some circles.Won't rapidly rolling on and off when going three gears up cause the bike to be unsettled? The roll off's can be progressively smaller i suspect? As at say 7k rpm in second, you roll off say 15%, grab third, roll off 10%, grab fourth, roll of 5-8%, grab fifth, all in the space of 2-3 seconds. Can some one try this and let us know if i am correct? ( Don't have a bike ) Also if Alfred's single roll of theory works as well? McKeen, rolling off when downshifting is contrary to all i have done in my life.How is it that you say you can roll off for downshifts when nearly everyone blips? .

SO if i want to go from second to fifth, how would i do it?

Thanks HF.Here are my observations, albeit on low power bikes. Clutchless upshift - At econo rev ranges of 4-5K, there is a very smooth shift.Even the suspension is not disturbed.At peak power of 9-10K, you have to roll off about a 20-15% from the earlier 5-10% so that the engine speed drops to the start of the power band/peak torque.So you roll off a quarter and the needle drops to say 7-8K in that interval.So when the next higher gear engages, there is a bit of a wiggle as the torque kicks in. Roll off rises in proportion to the power the engine is making at that rev range. Clutchless downshifts are hard on the bikes we have here, which have clunky boxes. A question.Can you short shift without using the clutch?

Err, sorry to barge in but, AFAIK, 1. Clutchless upshift - Any rpm, decrease throttle slightly and shift. 2. Clutchless downshift - Any rpm, blip and shift. Am i wrong?

Welcome.

If you spent your childhood and teens doing both, you have a chance at doing well at both.Later, you just can't get quite as good.

Ah yes, but while that is a fine production, the discussions we have ( and things discovered since ) and not on film i am afraid.Throttle control, braking etc are explained very well on the dvd.