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Hey guys! My name is Shany, 26 from Israel. I'm new here at the forum, and as well in the motorcycling world. I got my medium level licence (up to 33hp) few months ago and need to wait 1 year before I'll have a permit to drive unlimited bikes (33hp and above), Since my licence permit I haven't rode, because I rather study right insted of my own and get used to huge life threatning mistakes. Utill i'll get my new licence (few months left) I'll read here and learn some basic and advanced material. Since I live in israel, the only way I can participate in this amazing superbike school is via the school that is located in United Kingdom, So once I'll get my permit, I'll be heading my way to study how to ride properly there (courses and 2days camps). Until than, Nice to meet you all. -Shany

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Hey guys! My name is Shany, 26 from Israel. I'm new here at the forum, and as well in the motorcycling world. I got my medium level licence (up to 33hp) few months ago and need to wait 1 year before I'll have a permit to drive unlimited bikes (33hp and above), Since my licence permit I haven't rode, because I rather study right insted of my own and get used to huge life threatning mistakes. Utill i'll get my new licence (few months left) I'll read here and learn some basic and advanced material. Since I live in israel, the only way I can participate in this amazing superbike school is via the school that is located in United Kingdom, So once I'll get my permit, I'll be heading my way to study how to ride properly there (courses and 2days camps). Until than, Nice to meet you all. -Shany

 

Hi Shany, and welcome to the forum!

 

What kinds of bikes do you have there? Are there many decent curvy roads to ride?

 

CF

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Hey guys! My name is Shany, 26 from Israel. I'm new here at the forum, and as well in the motorcycling world. I got my medium level licence (up to 33hp) few months ago and need to wait 1 year before I'll have a permit to drive unlimited bikes (33hp and above), Since my licence permit I haven't rode, because I rather study right insted of my own and get used to huge life threatning mistakes. Utill i'll get my new licence (few months left) I'll read here and learn some basic and advanced material. Since I live in israel, the only way I can participate in this amazing superbike school is via the school that is located in United Kingdom, So once I'll get my permit, I'll be heading my way to study how to ride properly there (courses and 2days camps). Until than, Nice to meet you all. -Shany

 

Hi Shany, and welcome to the forum!

 

What kinds of bikes do you have there? Are there many decent curvy roads to ride?

 

CF

Howdy. You've found the ultimate site for learning to ride. The licensing thing sounds pretty smart. Kind of low on the hp though.

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Hey guys! My name is Shany, 26 from Israel. I'm new here at the forum, and as well in the motorcycling world. I got my medium level licence (up to 33hp) few months ago and need to wait 1 year before I'll have a permit to drive unlimited bikes (33hp and above), Since my licence permit I haven't rode, because I rather study right insted of my own and get used to huge life threatning mistakes. Utill i'll get my new licence (few months left) I'll read here and learn some basic and advanced material. Since I live in israel, the only way I can participate in this amazing superbike school is via the school that is located in United Kingdom, So once I'll get my permit, I'll be heading my way to study how to ride properly there (courses and 2days camps). Until than, Nice to meet you all. -Shany

 

Hi Shany, and welcome to the forum!

 

What kinds of bikes do you have there? Are there many decent curvy roads to ride?

 

CF

 

 

 

Well, Israel ins't that very big country, most of the bikers here ride on scooters and 33hp (also because of the new law) and few on 600+ or custms. We pretty much have all the standard european/asian/japanese bikes here, from vespa to hayabusa and so on. what doesn't make sense though (and the reason there isn't much bikers here) is the pricing on the bikes and biker. Just for example, a Ninja 250R 2008 costs here approximately $13,000 and I'm not kidding! So just figure how much a 600 costs ($35,000), or 1300 costs ($50,000)... It's kinda insane. That's why it is: 1. Not easy to own one here (work you ass off just to buy one). 2. Not fun to ride one (well ofcourse its fun, but this country is too small and there aren't any big roads here). 3. Hard to maintain one (buying is the easy step, maintainance is a $ drainer here). 4. Insurance costs x3 than a car here. 5. Roads are not wide and there are a lot of traffic jams (hench why most ride on scooters and low-end bikes). There for, I rather buy my bike in europe, train in europe (Thank god I got family in europe) and travel in europe and keep my car here. Cobie Fair, Since israel is mostly a terrain based country (Dunes /sands and desert) it is a good place for dirt bike riding, but as for Sport, it isn't.

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Shany,

 

Well, that's about what I figured, but didn't think the costs were that high. Insane that insurance would be so much more too!

 

Are dirt bike cost that high too--seems like for practicality, a nice dual sport bike might be fun?

 

CF

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Well, Israel ins't that very big country, most of the bikers here ride on scooters and 33hp (also because of the new law) and few on 600+ or custms. We pretty much have all the standard european/asian/japanese bikes here, from vespa to hayabusa and so on. what doesn't make sense though (and the reason there isn't much bikers here) is the pricing on the bikes and biker. Just for example, a Ninja 250R 2008 costs here approximately $13,000 and I'm not kidding! So just figure how much a 600 costs ($35,000), or 1300 costs ($50,000)... It's kinda insane. That's why it is: 1. Not easy to own one here (work you ass off just to buy one). 2. Not fun to ride one (well ofcourse its fun, but this country is too small and there aren't any big roads here). 3. Hard to maintain one (buying is the easy step, maintainance is a $ drainer here). 4. Insurance costs x3 than a car here. 5. Roads are not wide and there are a lot of traffic jams (hench why most ride on scooters and low-end bikes). There for, I rather buy my bike in europe, train in europe (Thank god I got family in europe) and travel in europe and keep my car here. Cobie Fair, Since israel is mostly a terrain based country (Dunes /sands and desert) it is a good place for dirt bike riding, but as for Sport, it isn't.

Thanks for explaining that. I once sold an Israeli guy (a dentist) some suspension parts that I had lying around. Now I understand why they were so much more valuable to him than to me.

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"Are dirt bike cost that high too--seems like for practicality, a nice dual sport bike might be fun?" Cobie Fair, Dual sport bike would be nice indeed, but the good ones are all above 33hp (remember we got limitation here, just like in Europe), I.E: Yamaha XT660 or Kawasaki KLE 500, where the asking price is around $19,000. Jaybird180, you are correct. a lot of riders here are buying stuff off the net from private people or places like eBay just because parts here are well expensive. hubbard_28, Eilat was the correct spelling :) I hope you enjoyed your self when you were in Israel! :) I've got a question for the teachers here (Cobie Fair), Even though with my very little experience (as you see from the explanations above), can I still sign up for the CSS? I.E: Level I ? and start learning the building blocks for the correct driving/sport driving?

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What we need as far as experience is concerned is they are comfortable with the control actions of the motorcycle: they are not worried or thinking about how to shift, or using the brakes, etc.

 

Usually if they have ridden for 6 months or so that is enough. Our school bikes are 600 cc, you would also need to be able to be comfortable on a bike that big, and that the size would not be a problem (some riders are short). For most people, it is no problem.

 

Does that all make sense to you?

 

Cobie

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What we need as far as experience is concerned is they are comfortable with the control actions of the motorcycle: they are not worried or thinking about how to shift, or using the brakes, etc.

 

Usually if they have ridden for 6 months or so that is enough. Our school bikes are 600 cc, you would also need to be able to be comfortable on a bike that big, and that the size would not be a problem (some riders are short). For most people, it is no problem.

 

Does that all make sense to you?

 

Cobie

 

 

Yeah it makes sense... Well I have not ridden on a 600, so I don't know about it, only bike I rode on was Suzuki 250Gn, as far as shifting, it's all the same , braking (more pressure on the front, not to much on the back brakes). I guess the engine braking of a 600 is something that I will have to accustom too and of course the heavy weight when it comes to the turns. I'm 1.73cm so I guess 600 won't be that tall for me ?. I might look like an ass going to Level I without 600 pre experience, but I rather look like an ass riding safely and correct than an ass riding without any life saving knowledge. Who knows what will be, So i', aming down the positive thinking :)

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Yeah it makes sense... Well I have not ridden on a 600, so I don't know about it, only bike I rode on was Suzuki 250Gn, as far as shifting, it's all the same , braking (more pressure on the front, not to much on the back brakes). I guess the engine braking of a 600 is something that I will have to accustom too and of course the heavy weight when it comes to the turns. I'm 1.73cm so I guess 600 won't be that tall for me ?. I might look like an ass going to Level I without 600 pre experience, but I rather look like an ass riding safely and correct than an ass riding without any life saving knowledge. Who knows what will be, So i', aming down the positive thinking :)

 

Sounds like you will be fine on a 600.

 

And, just so you know, everyone starts at Level 1.

 

CF

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