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Posts posted by Cobie Fair
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I like #4!
The eyes for sure lead the parade. Smooth flow of information is as good as it gets. Not all RPs have the same importance, so establishing a priority can help.
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KC, what are the key pieces that lets a rider know the turn point he has is good?
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I remember talking with Keith about Chandler: a world class guy, 2 sessions its done.
If the TP is nailed down as top priority, will it help pull the rest together? If the TP is a good one for you (allows the 3 aspects of a good TP--remember those?), then all else is built around that.
Are you looking for the perfect turn point RP that is in the perfect place, that you can see from a long way away? I've found those pretty rare! How about a large RP, that you can see from a long way away, that makes it easy to see? Then as you get closer, whittle it down, or judge from how far something else is (that you can see easilty). Also the data from the 2-step about using the turn and how the apex looks to you (apex orientation) as that gives data on where the correct turn point is.
I've just covered some pretty fine points (and not completely) from TP and 2-step, and if it's not clear, give me a call, I'll clear it up.
Best,
CF
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Shak,
For sure come and say hello to me on the day!
best,
CF
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Hi Kevin,
First off, what would be the most critcal RP to find, for any turn? Then what would be the next most critical?
Here's a follow up question to those: would be it be better to choose a definitey RP (even if it's wrong) than none at all?
See what you think of this, get back to us.
Best,
CF
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We have heard this, that we don't use/approve, etc. of this technique.
Not actually correct, we know (and train) riders in how to use the brakes. If it causes the rider to carry the brakes very far into the turn, delaying when he can stabilize the bike (getting back onto the throttle), then it is more a minus than a plus. But there are situations where it for sure has to be used (passing), long late apex turns, etc.
CF
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It is a nice track. It was repaved some years ago, we ran then and it was OK. But it didn't take long to revert back to un-rideable. Too bad!
Sometimes its better to opt for Streets of Willow Springs, especially if traveling from afar.
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Yeah, he needs a little more of a game, otherwise it's going to be like the Mladin show. Honestly, don't think it's that good for the sport.
Stomping everyone else is not that interesting. Rossi would make it look like a game, he'd stay and play for most of the race...everyone could tell he was doing it, but it didn't matter, there was that tiny doubt.
Kenny would do this too at the Yamaha races at Laguna.
CF
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Moving the turn point in (as you mentioned) could well help.
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Welcome Kawigirl!
I will for sure see you there, you will have to come and say hello!
Best,
Cobie
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Hi Jake,
Thanks for posting this up. Not as well known, but we did Harley-only schools for a while, and the techniques all stayed the same.
I'd like to say this is a short/quick fix. But honestly I don't know how to completely do that without getting you up to Level 2. That's where we spend the whole day on the visual skills. They are a whole series of them, staring with the 2-step and moving on from there. Any chance we might get you to a school?
Best,
Cobie
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Hi Blue,
If you tires are in good shape, you won't have to change them.
CF
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It's tighter and a bit bumpier than T/hill. When you get there, you can check in with Will, but usually best to ride a little as some of the things we'll do with you on the first day will effect how the bike handles.
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That's best to do hands on...
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Pretty easy to grind pegs on a Harley...not so easy on a sport bike with rearsets
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CF
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Let us know what you decide!
CF
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Just ask about the shifting, we address it individually.
CF
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One could see this easily at the track watching bikes change gears on short straights, like between Turn 5 and 6 at Laguna.
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I've also ridden a Busa on a track (small track). If you ride one of the BMW S1000's, you will have a good camparison on a sharp/lighter weight bike, and then you'll know the difference.
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Shakabusa (catchy name!),
Let us know what happens. If we can be of any help, your wife is welcome to call the office and talk to my wife...she has both ridden, taken the school and is a mother! Here name is Whitney :800-530-3350.
And welcome to the forum, good for participating! (a minor dig to the gang that just "lurks").
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Thanks for the feedback guys.
BVH's experience aside, I think we typically get a better result with the 2-day school as the first one.
For many the first day is a steep learning curve, usually around the 3rd session things start to gel. In most cases the lower ratio of students to coach, more track time, smaller classes (both and off track) of the 2-day camp is the winner. Either way, I would recommend doing 2 days the first time--single day schools or 2-day camps.
Best,
CF
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WERA approves any of our schools, all you will have to do is their ground school/safety briefing. For sure, going with someone that knows the ropes won't hurt, but you are qualified.
CF
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Rainman, totally agree on those also!
Finding Those Initial Reference Points
in Cornering and Techniques
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I'm replying from my "smart" phone, but can't see the rest of the thread, nor edit my comments, hence it may appear a little disjointed. I think I'll wait till I get to real computer!