faffi Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 If a rider is 5 seconds off the lap record, we would consider him very, very fast provided the record was at the world upper level. Now, even though 5 seconds doesn't seem like a lot - you'd still be qualified within the 107% rule at most tracks - it really is quite massive! During the 1990 race at Phillip Island, Gardner set a 1:33.94 lap. The outright lap record was set by Hayden in 2008 at 1:30.06 So less than 4 seconds after 20 years of spending billions on development on every aspects of the bike, from tyres to wheelie control. Other examples? 250 record is 1:32.71. The Production Superbike record is 1:32.91. Let's say you could ride a Production Superbike 5 seconds slower, roughly 1:38. You'd be a second per lap slower than the fastest 125s! In other words, going from a pretty OK club racer to the world level is about as difficult as swimming for an hour in near-freezing sea water; it has been done, but only by a limited few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobie Fair Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Interesting to see that lap time data. CF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonzilla Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Those really are insane numbers for a couple of reasons. First: as you said, all that money in development has given us 4 seconds. It's also the track. Phillip Island is a fast track. On a track with slower corners and more slow corners, I'd expect a closer pace. The flat out acceleration and speed of the bikes as well as increased lean angle, would have had me guessing a much larger disparity. Thanks for the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Suzuki Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 very intriguing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teg Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 If a rider is 5 seconds off the lap record, we would consider him very, very fast provided the record was at the world upper level. Now, even though 5 seconds doesn't seem like a lot - you'd still be qualified within the 107% rule at most tracks - it really is quite massive! During the 1990 race at Phillip Island, Gardner set a 1:33.94 lap. The outright lap record was set by Hayden in 2008 at 1:30.06 So less than 4 seconds after 20 years of spending billions on development on every aspects of the bike, from tyres to wheelie control. Other examples? 250 record is 1:32.71. The Production Superbike record is 1:32.91. Let's say you could ride a Production Superbike 5 seconds slower, roughly 1:38. You'd be a second per lap slower than the fastest 125s! In other words, going from a pretty OK club racer to the world level is about as difficult as swimming for an hour in near-freezing sea water; it has been done, but only by a limited few. i too have looked at these types of numbers with despair !! if you haven,t looked well its a great learning exercise to put your own riding in perspective - i tend not too look at world level though!! ha ha . but seriously its a wake up call for trackday wanabees like me . a good early lesson is that old stopwatch don,t lie.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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