Johnno down under Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Having never attended a school, of any kind and with 900k miles of touring and over confident open road sport riding, some of which certainly at the edge of foolish, but with very few offs, and none of significance ( other than a dog that took out my front wheel at 25mph which dislocated a shoulder) you would think I know how to corner. Well it seems I've forgotten something. I no longer see corners the same way and am working on that. (no brake/ fixed gear drills, and picking markers) I am relying too much on trail braking the spiral into corners that should be a simple counter steer to point the bike and go, and am working on that. ( going deeper -later- before committing.) But Keith suggests staying at on the seat moving Knee to knee using a hip flick. I've watched the videos several times and come to the conclusion hip flick just won't work on my bike unless I'm going very very fast and genuinely hanging off the bike ( more than just a cheek). I've done this in the past cornering at 100mph, but road riding at 60mph doesn't need that much cornering reserve. Most times 1/2 a cheek with a 1/4 a 1/2 knee is more than sufficient especially when trail braking into corners (most pleasant rural roads here in NZ are back to back reducing radius blind corners in which powering through, even on a flat throttle, will see you looking for a set of wings. Knee to knee on my bike a Suzuki GSX 400X Impulse involves little more than simply turning out one knee. For decades setting up to hang off for me has involved slide forward slightly, grip heel rests with both heels, grip tank with both knees, rise up slightly then sit gently back down while crunching the gut muscles on the side nearest the corner. This moves me over the required 1/4 - 1/2 cheek without unsettling the bike.then look and knee out just before I countersteer (90% imperceptible counter steer). Attempting to hip flick is very much like riding on fist sized rocks (wriggles) and barely moves my butt. O K the bike is tiny, pegs set for upright riding, weighs a mere 173kg(wet) to my 86 kg, and has a narrow tank so likely has something to do with it, but Keith's advice suggests my habitual move should incite far more wriggle than it does. My move is more akin to gently tilting the bike away from the corner underneath me. I guess I do slightly load the bars, but my straight line doesn't shift until I deliberately counter steer, and my hands are loose ( just firm enough to hold the throttle when doing no brake corner drill). Aside from hip flick wriggle gone mad, I'm trying to instill roll on throttle from counter steer, but I need to overcome my early commitment and habitual trail brake habits first. Believe me I'm smooth on the trail braking, having never fully lost the front and then only in hurricane weather.. Trail braking on rippled pavement is a screaming lot of fun - the front end kinda hovers while bouncing left to right and still follows my line???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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