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I was doing a track that I have ridden frequently, and somehow figured that there is a turn that I was making way too slow for myself. I always got good drive out, but the faster riders would smoke me through it. I kept working on it, and working on it, changing my RP and my entry point. I hit it one time, and got tingly from how fast I could whip through it, and quite a few times after that just got excited that I could keep up with the faster riders through this whole section. I remember going over the rumble strips that lead into the next corner for the first time and thinking BINGO!!! I knew I nailed that corner, and still shutter when I think about the speed I can carry through there.

Whether they allow the suit or not really depends on the trackday host, or what league you're riding in. Some will allow 180 degree zippers, and some require 3/4. I'm not familiar with the suit either, but if you show it to the hosts, they will be able to further clarify. If it's not leather, you usually can't ride it, but again, you should clarify it with the trackday/racing host that you're interested in riding with. Sometimes they have websites that explain what they allow to ride with.

I've lived in Dallas where Triumph is very popular, and have owned one. Besides the 600TT they have AWESOME reliability. And there is a huge coolness factor.

They don't stop the noise, they buffer it. And they cut the wind noise out all together. I don't know if it's the size of my helmet (x-large) but I've never had a helmet that is even remotely effective in cutting the wind down. Arai and Shoei have been ineffective for me. I can hear plenty with the plugs in, and even earphones. Obviously if they are louder they would drown out the noise, but I have the music so low that if I didn't know the song I wouldn't be able to hear the lyricsl.

I was of the understanding that it was done when they're going in fast. I don't know if it would aid in a quick turn. It has to be some sort of balance. Maybe it was a balance point someone found while reseting their foot after a downshift before getting into turn position.

I haven't done it on the track, but I think it increases the risk if riding in traffic. I'm going to work tomorrow (Saturday morning) without any traffic and will probably have them on. I've done it once in traffic, and it sort of freaked me out. I won't do it again. I know throwing in the RocknRolla soundtrack or something fast and loud makes the trip to work A LOT faster. And Cobie, Skull Candy is just a name brand of some headphones that can be found anywhere. Target, Best Buy, Walmart.

Did you make the turn while paying attention to RP's, Jaybird? I would think that you would be able to pick up on them quickly whether consciously used or not.

Hi again Francisco.

Good to have you back, Cobie. I'm going to pick TOTW up before I go to Vegas Sunday. I sit in the tub and can read for hours, but don't have a tub in my loft. Not very motivated to read when I'm not in the tub unless I'm studying on the computer. For the longest time I thought TOTW 2 was just an update to TOTW.

I don't commute to work with them. It takes 10 minutes to get to work. Long rides and trackdays? Yes. When I was braking my wife's bike in I tried headphones for the first time. Everything from cheap Radio Shack one's to $40 Sony earbuds, and nothing worked for me. After a while I tried Skull Candy ear buds. I wasn't going to because they're $20 and have a stupid name. I was almost to the point of paying $220 for fitted one's I was getting so desperate. Let me tell anyone looking for something to block out noise while riding that you have to try these first. I can hear the music crystal clear at low and high RPM's, low and high speeds. Whenever. If anyone looks for something to ride with, try Skull Candy first. Does anyone ride with headphones on the track? A friend of mine tried it, and said he liked it. I've never ridden with them on in any kind of traffic or on the track.

I don't know Jaybird. I like being able to walk to a couple different places, toss a few back, gamble here, gamble there, and not have to worry about getting back. And If you haven't shelled out for a nicer hotel room, you have to try it. I know everyone says "but I'm not going to be in the room much." I've lived there, and I do a little gambling and a lot of relaxing. MGM is great. And Stuman. Did you really recommend Circus Circus to Delirio? Shame on you. Can you imagine how he would explain Las Vegas to his friends at home? He'd be the last Chilean to visit Vegas for a long time. I am going to stay downtown when I do the school. Cheap, nice rooms with a nice local feel, or jump on the bus and after a short trip you're on the strip. And it's a few minutes closer to the track.

What do the CSS bikes have? Is it optional?

A good amount of local racers put lots of money into their rides and trackdays, but I couldn't find many who have invested in proper training.

Thanks for explaining that Bones. It sounds like something I'd like to look into. I'm always adjusting my throttle hand position, and that could help.

1) Yes the radius would increase as speed does as long and you don't put an input into the bars. That would appear to disagree with TC Rule #1 I don't think it would. Increasing speed without increasing lean makes you go wider. Maintaining speed and increasing lean would tighten the circle.

Sorry. Double post.

If you have a fixed lean position and constant speed going around the circle, I'm guessing basic physics would keep you in the turn not giving for tire slippage and wear, depending on how long you would do it. To stay in the circle when increasing speed you would have to increase lean angle which would decrease ground clearance.

Mad Kaw Disease. Funny. I love the slipper clutches, and unless something comes along that I really love more than Kawasaki, I'm staying put. If they come out with a 750 or 800, even limited edition, I'm going straight to the cycle shop. Since I've been riding track I haven't had much opportunity to ride any other bikes. I think I'll get comfortable on the ZX6R really quick.

This year is going to be less than last. I'm killing myself trying to scrape the money together for CSS, and I have to fix a medical problem that will require a surgery, so I'll be out for a while because of that. I know, ailing Jason. I hit 35 and it's like my warranty has expired.

Howdy from Arizona. Sepang is always one of my favorite GP races to watch. Back to back long straights, huge sweeping turns. Ahh.

Howdy. Glad you've joined.

I would think it would put more stress on the arms. They can't lock into the tank, and it's one more thing they can't shift all that pressure to.

Great way to put it Bones.

Now, I know I don't do it right, but when I go in (right then left), I don't full lean in the first. Thats because I'm more concerned with the exit from the 2nd turn. You'll still see me shaking my head after the 1st corner because I never get it right. I'm always more focused on setting up the 2nd because I'll be able to launch into the straight if I get this corner right. Type 1 corners and all. A long straight puts me into the 1st corner. I get pressure on the front to turn in, small acceleration into 2 so I can get back off the gas and come in with pressure on the front there as well. I apex early because it's a long corner, and I can go over the rumble strips going onto the straights shortening the track.

...here it is i think...an RP is what ever makes you make that decision of braking,turning ect....could be as simple as a 100 feet of discolored pavement or something like gearing revs and all that...doesnt mean that it is actually a good thing since its so vague...i understand what Hub means by RP'S , if you want to get around a race track faster or if you want to get closer to race pace you need solid and specific RP'S ..if that makes any sense.. I thought about it and ran it through a few times, but this is a rough draft. I'm not the most literate person, but here goes. Feel free to add changes or alter it as you guys think is best. Reference Point (RP)- An RP is a point on a road or track, fixed or placed, that can be used as a reference by a motorcycle rider for various purposes. These points are used for, but not limited to: braking, turning, apexing, accelerating, and maneuvering a motorcycle. RP's are used to maximize a riders speed, consistency, safety, and confidence while riding, and allow familiarity with location and use of a "line."