4corsa 1 Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 Why is that with current high performance tire sets that you fully reach the edge of the rear tire, there is still a half inch "chicken strip" remaining on the front tire? One would think you would reach the edge at the same lean angle. Thanks in advance. Greg D. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PittsDriver 14 Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 It's personally comforting to me that there's more margin in the front than the rear - that's just how I like it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Fair 111 Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 The fronts don't get to the edge, on any of the bikes we've had for years. The rear will go all the way, the front always has a "chicken strip". That's a good question though, are there any bikes they do get to the edge, besides full race bikes (WSB or MotoGP). CF 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hotfoot 272 Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 This may be an oversimplification but I thought it was because the rear tire is wider than the front on the higher horsepower bikes. The effect is a lot less noticeable on smaller, lower HP bikes where the tire sizes are not as different front to back. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hotfoot 272 Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 If you Google "front tire chicken strips Dave Moss" he has a short and rather entertaining video that relates to this topic. (Dave Moss is a very respected suspension guy and knows a LOT LOT LOT about tires and tire wear.) 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DLHamblin 12 Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 On 7/15/2019 at 7:41 PM, Cobie Fair said: The fronts don't get to the edge, on any of the bikes we've had for years. The rear will go all the way, the front always has a "chicken strip". That's a good question though, are there any bikes they do get to the edge, besides full race bikes (WSB or MotoGP). CF I was told by a Dunlop tire rep if I get to where there is no chicken strip on front on the street I am going WAY too fast when I asked that! I think the Q4 can do 62 degree of lean; I know my 2015 GSXR cannot anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jaybird180 102 Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 62 degrees! Wow! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Fair 111 Posted July 26, 2019 Report Share Posted July 26, 2019 Haven't spent much time on those Q4's, but pretty much only heard great stuff so far... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CoffeeFirst 12 Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 I rode Q4s for L4 training during the last 2 day camp at VIR. They were outstanding. Have no idea what lean angle was achieved but they provided tons of grip & confidence when fully leaned over with knees on the pavement. They will be my go to track tire when not on slicks. If you are considering giving them a try you won't regret it. Dave Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Fair 111 Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 Have to agree all the way on that. Got some great info from Dylan on these tires (he's well educated on them) and they work better in every category but street wear. So the Q3+ is an excellent tire, but the Q4 would be the one for strict track riding for sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakaru 37 Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 Q4s have been amazing every time I've ridden them. What impressed me most was at The Ridge when it got wet I decided to swap from my S1000 (Q4s) to the school's on Q3s (It was a camp so I had one assigned) and, after some ramp up, almost immediately started [mildly] sliding at a pace I had felt 'rock solid' on my bike. I switched back next session and it was great again. I'm sure real wets would have been even better, but it caught me off guard that a tire that is basically "as close to a slick as you can be for street" was that capable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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