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Another excellent post Steve.
One point Pete brought up, and wonder if you have anything more to add is warming both sides of the tire. Here is something we have seen: Rider goes out, cool day, cold tires (no warmers) takes 2 right hand turns medium speed, gradually increasing his pace, then comes to a left and goes a little faster and crashes.
Can you elaborate (if needed) on this point?
Best,
CF
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Hi Klaus,
It was nice to meet you there, pleasant surprise!
We were pretty busy, didn't get much time to chat, but good to place the name with the face!
Let me know when you get signed up for next year, consider what Rainman said, Laguna is very nice, but hard to beat Streets for a good ride and good weather.
Best,
Cobie
Hi Cobie,
Happy belated Merry Christmas.
Yes, as promised and, after lots of good advice, I did sign up for the Streets in Spring of 2011.
Looking so forward to it.
Wishing you and all of the SuperBike School staff a Happy New Year.
See you in the Spring.
Klaus
Excellent Klaus, see you then! Which date?
CF
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My dad still can't stand hearing me talk about riding, I hide the race photos when he comes over.
To me, this sounds like that you have to hide or hold back a part of the real, authentic you when he's around - not the ideal recipe for a great relationship.
Although my parents aren't over-joying for me riding, they are pretty relaxed about it. As my mum pointed out, continuing to oppose that I was riding was very unlikely to make me change my mind about it.
Kai
I got lucky, my mom just insisted I get trained by the best person we knew at the time (before the Superbike School was around).
CF
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One point on wet riding (there are a few, maybe we ought to do a whole thread on that), is find the traction limit with the rear tire. not the front. Seems like a pretty basic idea, but we do see it violated pretty often.
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And a belated Merry Christmas!
Turns out ours was excellent, got some tools I'd wanted to do a little amateur furniture building.
Here is to hoping you all have an excellent year of motorcycle riding ahead
Best,
Cobie
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Cobie,
Mid America Motoplex is a completely flat track with good surface everywhere. Runoffs are mostly level grass which is fine unless thunderstorms wet it down in which case you'll fall if you go off. They run cars as well, and if you ride it the day after a car race you find incredible traction because of all the rubber on the track. Very noticeable. Probably a bit boring compared to some tracks but 75 miles away is close and easy out here and the mood is midwest relaxed. Yup, I'm a lifelong pilot, airplanes, helicopters, gliders, and balloons. I make my living building and restoring antique airplanes and parts, and flew commercially for years in Oregon, Washington, Alaska and California. I still visit California in the winter. I wish you had your schools then!
Mid America, got it.
Flying, another interest! I come from a family of pilots, but didn't follow in that. We'll have to get together at some point and talk about what you are doing, and I can pass along some flying lies .
Best,
CF
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No and I don't think I got that joke.
Think outside the box Pete!
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Who found the family album?!
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Another thought for you guys: I'm pretty obviously a fan of shifting w/out the clutch, but think all should be able to use it, know how to do it correctly.
That being said, here is one thing that has happened: I have had a couple of students that simply found clutchless shifting easier to get. For sure, clutchless upshifting is quite easy to do, just roll off for a moment, make the shift!
But some (even experienced track riders) have had a hard time working this into their program, and in just a few cases found it easier to learn it w/out the clutch.
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I did talk with one of the Dunlop engineers, and they don't even measure the external temp, just the internal temp. Very interested to see what Steve can fill in here. But we are getting closer to x-mas, maybe he'll take a few days off! I'm going to .
CF
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I run 35 psi F/R on street. For track 30-31F/28-29R. I figure the higher pressure's for the street would also help prevent damage to my rims on sharp bumps. Like the one's just before you roll onto a bridge.
Aaron
I had run your track numbers on my Q's shod ZX-9 on the street--didn't seem to have any stability problems. I always wanted a little more margin, err on the side of more traction, but I'm thinking about going up a few pounds after all these posts.
CF
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I'll ignore Pete's comments, he still thinks farting is about as much fun as you can have with your clothes on.
But Aaron totally reminded me that I used to get rides on the back of my dad's Honda 350 scrambler, 3 up. Either my brother or i was on the front, the other one on the back...not even sure we had long pants on...
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Excellent response Steve. Really brings to mind how close I have ever come to sliding around on the street--except for hitting something slippery (or not warming the tire), I'd say never. But there are lots of guys that are willing to go faster than I am in street conditions.
I'd like to know how many of you have 2 different "settings" for you pace, street and track? But, sounds like another thread, off this topic.
CF
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A track to oneself, nice!
What is the name of that track? And what kind of condition is it in?
Another question: as you have ""flyer in you name, are you a pilot?
CF
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Derek,
Good story! I don't recall the very first ride on my grandfather's mini bike (Honda Trail 70)...for sure no helmet, and I wonder if we even were using gloves, likley not. This would have been like '73.
CF
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Hi All (and Steve),
I wanted to get a thread going, though we have touched partly on this already, about how tires are warmed. We do not have the option to use tire warmers at the school for the coaches, and students riding the school bikes, so this is of interest to many.
My understanding is that in essence tires warm from the inside out, the carcass flexing. Many have talked about friction/contact with the surface warming the tires, but my take is that this actually cools the tires down unless it is very hot.
Maybe Steve can set us straight on this, including when will track temp help actually warm the tires.
I'd also like to have Steve touch on warming both sides of the tires, as this is an issue we have seen often: riders start out of the pits on cold tires, make a few turns on lets say the right side, keep picking up the pace, hit the first left turn and they are down.
Hope these questions are clear Steve, let me know please.
Best,
CF
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Wow, sounds like they did an impressive job, and also really let the track cure for a while.
CF
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Hi Dustin and welcome!
Will's address is: mechanic@superbikeschool.com
Glad you are up, post away!
Best,
Cobie
ps--I shot you a pm too.
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My first bike was a Honda 400f to, '76 (blue). Rode it a lot .
CF
you've been riding as long as I've been alive
got any advise.... picked anything up over the years...
+1
Maybe a thing or 2, but the nice thing about riding today is you don't have to rely on learning by trial and error .
CF
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Steve--good points, but I'd like a little clarification on this.
We have had many that have had their pressures up 36-38 front, and 42+ rear.
I understand your street riding comparison, but don't we still want to get very good traction and with high numbers (often recommended, and as I understand for max conditions--like 2 up, baggage, etc.).
I personally would sacrifice a bit of tire wear for traction, after tossing my first motorcycle down the road from letting the tires get too used.
CF
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I personally run virutally no play in the cable to keep from having to move the wrist a lot for the blip. The first gradient step is to simply let the bike slow down a bit, and then do the blip, don't even worry about braking. Start with that.
CF
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Wow, don't know why they are off the schedule, that's a goof, I'll find out what's up!
Those Laguna dates filled right up, think it was 3 days after release.
Anyway, they shouldn't come off, a goof.
CF
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Hi Flyerguy,
Welcome, glad you like the content.
What do you ride, where, chime in and give us some info!
Best,
Cobie
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My first bike was a Honda 400f to, '76 (blue). Rode it a lot .
CF
Jorge Lorenzo Fast In
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OK, and what also has to change with the riding if the entry speed goes up?
This is your mini-Twist 2 quiz for the day .
CF