csmith12

hmmm..... A smooth roll on is relative to each rider and bike combination. If you get on the gas to hard and/or to soon it can stand the bike up or want to send you wide. Finding a line that allows for good throttle control is a fundamental step to felling confident and stable while leaned over. Where do feel your throttle control is overall during cornering? Do you feel there is a spike in your throttle roll that could be relative to your spike in mid-corner confidence?

Welcome!

3 months and already out on the track. 3 times no less.... Well done! Hotfoot will certainly take good care of you and your questions. Don't forget to work on those visual skills! It's an important part of preventing and controlling your SR's.

Nice, glad you had a outstanding time! Post your pics here or in the success stories/photos forum, would be great to see!

Since you are working on visual skills, I invite you to give a thread I started a read. http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=109933 It gets pretty deep if you haven't taken level 1 but Misti (a CSS coach) ensures that the basics are covered. I enjoyed your video, thanks for sharing.

A lot of questions in your post. lol But that is cool. By your description, it doesn't sound as if your front gave up any traction. Even a slight roll off the throttle will cause some weight to transfer from the rear to the front of the bike. When this happens, the front tire's contact patch spreads and increased friction will countersteer the bike all by itself. It seems, you have learned that all on your own. As far as a warning sign.... they are subtle but there. The easiest one to feel is your body weight wanting to go forward on the bike. Also, front will get a "heavy" or "digging in feeling" as you get closer to what you describe as "tucking". Finally and most importantly yes, you will want to stay on the throttle as you have also learned all on your own. Aside loss of traction, a tank slapper, large bumps in the road or rider error, I know of nothing else that could send the bars in the opposite direction. The scary feeling you had was a voice telling you something is not right. Make sure you listen to them when they scream so loudly because they are not always that way. And let me ask you this about decreasing radius turns. Where do you turn in and how do you think it would that affect how you proceed through this corner or any other given corner?

I think I have found a nice balance between feel and "somewhere" near legal speeds but more importantly adds a bit of safety to my street riding. I almost always delay apex every corner. The main benefits that relate to this thread are: A good throttle roll A longer line of sight through the corner A quick turn into the corner Ability to more accurately find apex and a good line Increased time to set a good entry speed At least for me all those combined feel stable and inspire as much confidence as taking a corner at 100. Although, I find nothing really wrong with a nice lazy cruise either. And I sometimes prefer my ninja 250 on the street for a variety of reasons but the main one is... I can ride it at a slower speed and can somewhat provide an "aggressive" tone to the ride without all the extra stuff coming along for the ride, if you know what I mean. What makes you feel unstable in a corner at lower speeds? Possibly the same line and lean angle with the absence of required speed to equalize everything out? Is your track riding leaking into your street riding? And finally, do you HAVE to go fast in order to enjoy the ride?

I wouldn't categorize techniques in the same place as myths. To me, the story proves that alternate riding styles can be fast too. The tech of modern bikes/tires are amazing, join that with huge rider determination/confidence, willingness to take risks and you have a winning combination.

Welcome! Eager to hear how it went.

Great video!

Yea, this year I have seen the biggest improvements and a burst in speed that I really can't explain, I guess I just got comfortable. I did spend way to much time in N and I groups but I am glad I did. As a matter of fact, I still ride my ninja 250 from time to time to focus on skills. That bike just feels like it allows me to focus on me.... if you know what I mean. The bike is a 06, bone stock aside of some powder coated parts and wheels. Although my last track day I did do -1 to the front sprock to get some extra drive.

I think I have experience the same before. It happens when I am fully relaxed on a casual ride. It's only happened on the track one time when my focus was like a laser, starting at comfortable pace. It broke when I got chatter from both front and rear wheels at the same time. Looked down, and I was 85mph in a corner. I was on my ninja 250 and I have been chasing it ever since then.

Hi everyone! My name is Chris, 38yrs old and I am an avid track/street rider from Kentucky. I have been riding nearly all my adult life, most of that time spent on standard and cruiser style bikes. I am looking to continue and improve on my riding by maybe taking the CSS one day. I have watched Twist of the Wrist II countless times and still learn something I missed with each review and when I reach a new level, it seems there is a whole new set of skills and factors that are addressed in the video. When I ask questions, expect them to be very specific and detailed. My wife tells me I have OCD about my riding lol. Here are a few pics of last years track days. Thanks to much research, seat time and the helpful rider coaches at Mid-Ohio,I have learned so much this year. I learned that you don't have to drag knee to go fast and when bad things happen, you can remain calm, cool and in control. I made the jump from the I group to the A group this year as well. I have gone the fastest I have ever gone, it has been exhilarating with a strong sense of freedom. And family and friends at the track makes it a special time for me. I know I have much to learn and am exited for next season.