Jaybird180

I think he's got a point Too bad engines aren't as simple as the theory. The pistons actually come to a dead stop during the stroke, valves float and cams lobes don't exactly do the job that visual inspection suggests. Inside the explosion container (cylinder) are supersonic pressure waves and other disturbances that engineers must tune after the prototypes are built.

Has anyone considered a mechanical issue---maybe swingarm or rear shock is loose?

Bullet that's the first time I've heard it explained that way. Good to go mate.

Bullet, are you sure that electronics are the panacea that it is made out to be? Although they do have superior technology, notably in the area of tires, the laws of physics are still the same...but this IMHO doesn't account for the reason Valentino trails so much (more than Casey or Lorenzo from what I've seen).

Hi Jason I have the same opinion as Kevin on this one, wait for level 3 and you will get what you need, the reason you have never heard of the "keeping his legs into the tank any time he's changing his BP" drill is because it would be more likely to be called the knee to knee, some riders do it naturally and some have a massive gap between there legs when moving across the bike! The point is if you practice this incorrect now it could cause problems as your riding progresses! Bobby +1 on that. While I can move around tirelessly on my Honda, it's obvious that I am missing something because tying it on the Kawi WORE ME OUT! I'm gonna vote "no" on this one. After discussion about a year ago on this with some egghead colleagues, I tried getting through the movie...OMG! I couldn't do it. I like Benny Hill and Austin Powers, but I just couldn't do that movie. LOL (and yes, I know there's a book also).

I still fail to see what's so special about Pedrosa. People skills maybe?

How did I miss that...good catch Greg

Looks like Kagayama is leading the shoulder a bit...but it also looks like it's congruous.

IIRC 2006 in Portugal, Melandri was smokin' on the RC211V. Smoked right past Valentino FTW.

I knew I should've done that dang blasted home study course Seriously: I'm scratching my head on this little fill in the blanks riddle. Let's see if I'm on track (no pun). Rider goes in too hot Realizes it and gets on the brake too hard Probably has soiled underwear Most likely entry speed is too slow Most likely didn't look thru the turn Most likely misses the TP and consequently the apex, or maybe blew the entire corner If the corner was "made", rider most likely fails to get back on the gas in a timely fashion Most likely gets greedy to try and make up for the above It's probably staring me in the face, if I missed it above.

Let me ask this- Are you saying there is a mistake that causes the rider to be too hot, or a mistake as a result of being too hot?

In light of this discussion, my latest observation of this save is that the front pushed after Colin was well established and after he was back into the gas. Was this a freak occurrence?

May be I should have written - There's at least one other aspect of your riding your should analyze.... Ooh, ooh teacher pick me, pick me.... I can recall when I consistently rushed a corner when riding Summit Point Shanendoah; I had no reference point to tell me that the blind right was coming, and I was consistently off line and/or too fast. Is that what you were getting at?

Yeah, Look at where you're going!

1Valentino RossiFiat Yamaha Team2:00.925 2 Casey Stoner Ducati Marlboro Team 2:01.320 3 Jorge Lorenzo Fiat Yamaha Team 2:01.680 4 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team 2:01.822 5 Ben Spies Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2:02.266 6 Andrea Dovizioso Repsol Honda Team 2:02.272 7 Colin Edwards Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2:02.479 8 Nicky Hayden Ducati Marlboro Team 2:02.493 9 Aleix Espargaro Pramac Racing Team 2:02.647 10 Loris Capirossi Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 2:02.763 11 Marco Melandri San Carlo Honda Gresini 2:02.810 12 Hector Barbera Aspar Team 2:03.032 13 Randy De Puniet Lcr Honda MotoGP 2:03.043 14 Hiroshi Aoyama Interwetten-Honda MotoGP 2:03.195 15 Marco Simoncelli San Carlo Honda Gresini 2:03.245 16 Alvaro Bautista Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 2:03.274 17 Mika Kallio Pramac Racing Team 2:03.359 18 Yamaha O Yamaha O 2:05.803 19 Yamaha T Yamaha T 2:06.621 Go Ben Go! Obviously, Spies learned SOMETHING worthwhile from Schwantz, who talks about learning new tracks quickly. Stuman, spill the beans here.

I'm a fair size guy and if I tried using my back to lift my 600 I'd have to tell the wife not to hope for a large family. NEVER lift with your back. If you drop the bike it's very easy to grab the bar and back into the bike to stand it up. Works every time, regardless of the size of the machine.

Cause and Effect. If you think you're in too fast, it will cause you do things to "correct" that situation.

If you crash out of 1st place and now you're out of the points, many riders give up and don't try to salvage any.

Impressive level of control. What kind of track was that? Really small...must be a special purpose, maybe R/C?

A great thread!!! Not to be outdone, I'd have to say the first drill, Throttle Control, because I was forced to work on it regardless of anything else we were focusing on at the time. I found that it affected not only corner stability and exit speed, but also quick turning and proper entry for the tricky, slow parts.

100% hooked up plus 10% slip. Driving home yesterday, saw an older SUV in front of me with a tweaked frame, traveling forward but also sort of sideways, too, because the back was not quite in line with the front. I could see the back of the truck and part of the left side of it. It must be hell on the tires. And then I thought: AHA! 100% hooked up plus 10% slip! There always has to be some measure of truth in humor. What percentage is truth and what percentage is humor, Hotfoot?

I thought the same until I found that GP bikes already have one plugged into their data package. Maybe you could do one better and patent that!!!

I thought that 10% slip meant 90% hooked-up. What are you saying now?

On exit, you can freely spin the rear. I don't think it's possible to .... nevermind, you can wheelie the front on exit, who cares, right? Midcorner you can slide both F/R Entry you can slide the front, if you have the skill.

I've only pushed the front once and didn't do it again (backed off the pace a bit). It happened so fast and was over before I knew it. I've yet to overwhelm the rear on the gas. I suppose you can sneak up on the limit