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I already successfully got 4 of my friends to learn the TOTW2 way of cornering and avoidance of SR's too~ having a short lesson at my house courtesy of the DVD and then mountain carving makes it easy to spot my friends mistakes and help them iron those mistakes out

Get an oil change , im thinking the oil sheared out of spec during the 3rd session.

looks like the rubber "re-formed" ... kinda like flat spotting but ... did you heat the tire up to its working temp and then did an e-brake / let it sit to cool down on any surface resembling this?

There are pro's and con's I'm pretty sure that the pro's outweight the con's alot ; there wouldnt be S1000RR's at the school otherwise...

Racing grade traction control can help reduce tire wear by as much as 20% ...(ducati DTC is NOT race grade too intrusive for races ; Aprilla RSV4 / Nemesis aftermarket ones are...) Fuel injected bikes that run with the aid of a computer are ES too ... it depends on how much control you want and how seamless its implemented. IMHO... Championships are all or nothing and with only bridgestone as the sole tire provider for motogp.... its as good as dead ; monopoly does not promote competition or breed competetiveness...

As for any electronic system (ES) , the tire is mapped , hence if you want to optimize the whole bike's ES , you'll have to get a map catered to the tire. I know BMW, which makes S1000RR's , provide different maps for different approved tires by different manufactureres. Ducati is now owned by Audi , so you can hope they come out with maps for the Q2's. But i'd say stick to the stock pirellis first , because im not sure if Ducati has made maps for Q2s yet.

holy moly! that was waaay too close for comfort!!

the answer is written in stone in the book AND dvd. Why dont you reread it and tell us which chapter it appears in? In the DVD it appears fairly early (SR hint hint)

Next is... "dull the senses" to calm down SR's. How do you do this? I would say it either takes alot of practice (especially on the nobs bike/drift/brake rig) or .... pardon me for saying this ... inbuilt talent . You are your worst enemy. Taking classes ... given that if one can lowside twice in a rce and fix everything up , financially it is really viable.

i second re-reading/ viewing the book/dvd.

not with worn tires/low friction coeffecient surfaces/ cold tires imho.

Ur doing it SO wrong dude... countersteering/quick flick isnt going to help if you rush corners....

thats the hardware trap imho... BSB and WSBK bikes are EXTREMELY tuned to their riders , and unless you are willing to spend 2-10X the bike price , then really you can forget about it . Skills taught at the CSBKS however only cost 1/3 of the bike price and imho you still can be faster than 90% of people who havnt been to the school. Its cost effective if you see it that way.

MY guesstimate is based on the same theory of wind drag; ie the friction drag helps the top racers to corner faster due to a 3rd contact frictonal force acting on the bike (besides the 2 wheels) Track/race day only technique thou, trying it on the streets = dangerous riding imho

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countersteering

I have stated that it has simlarities as it taps into the can system ; A dedicated section will be nice thou imho

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IMHO if you are not too old to ride, you are capable for the school.

If you dont pass inspection, there should be dunlops at the school.

Im thinking that such a setup is useful only at level 4 as the level of customization tailored to each individual will show using both the camera and onboard data logging before and after improvements/coaching .... And imho its quite costy now, the financial barrier is no joke now.... maybe when such systems start to become abundant and cheaper?

IMHO these work well for me : throttle control , turn in point and not triggering any SR's .

wow erik , someone has the same thoughts as you it seems : http://blogs.motorcyclistonline.com/street-savvy-target-fixation-35309.html

A bunch of links that are a good read on how the TC and ESP systems read and react : How TC works: http://www.motorcycl...ined-91272.html Advance TC: http://www.sportride...ol/viewall.html Racing TC/ESP systems reviews: http://www.motorcycl...action_control/ http://www.trackdaym...on-control.html 2012 Litrebike TC/Electronic systems comparisons: http://www.motorcycl...Comparison.aspx http://www.cycleworl...i-zx-10r-video/ personal rant: We live in exciting times, Being able to see and use years and even decades old BANNED F1 technology finally trickling down to consumer vehicles . you can see whats banned here: http://www.f1fanatic...ures/banned/ ( theres a page 2! ) Fortunately for me as a teenager (what? 15 years ago?) , I was able to get a glimpse of it thru the imagination of a future where all the real world banned stuff isnt banned (eg parallel fictional world ) by a company called sunrise and its re-imagination (with some trinklets thrown in for good entertainment measure) of the future thru an anime called Future GPX Cyber Formula . In that fictional future time line (and this video ) you can actually see (in a fictional way) the combination of said currently F1 BANNED technologies such as Ground effect Active suspension (S1000RR HP4 YAY!) Traction control X-wings Turbos Four wheel steering Slicks Gas turbine engines Six-wheelers Rocket fuel Flexi-wings (458 Italia) Brabham-Alfa Romeo BT46B ‘Fan Car’ I sure hope to live in such a future given all the technology is already available a few years or even decades ago... And IMHO thats why I dont watch F1 anymore; its boring and nerfed to me

I only heard that the S1000RR HP4 usues a centralized CAN BUS system for all the sensors and controls ; powercommanders/ bazzaz stuff apparently tap into this system too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAN_bus I personally diverge more into how the TC and ESP systems are implemented in different brands; seems that the Europe approach(BMW /APRILIA) and Japanese(KAWASAKI/YAMAHA) approach are pretty different

Well, clearly he WAS exceeding his skill level, as proven by the fact that he HIT something!! However, the rider does not appear to be going exceptionally fast, and he is certainly not leaned way over trying desparely to tighten his turn - in fact he appears to stand the bike UP, instead of trying to turn it more - so I don't really think speed was the primary problem. It looks more like he panicked, staring straight at the thing he didn't want to hit - and simply did not know what to do, so his Survival Reactions took over. Some of the classic SR responses in Twist II include: Roll off the gas Tighten on the bars Fixed attention (on something) Steering in the direction of the fixed attention No steering or ineffective steering Braking errors (over or under braking) If the rider did not know WHAT to do, he probably panicked, grabbed a handful of front brake (which would make the bike run wide), stiffened his arms (also makes the bike run wide) and never attempted to steer away from the bicyclist at all - all classic SR reactions. They should put up a warning on Mulholland that all riders are advised to attend at least one day of California Superbike School before attempting to ride that road. That is a brillant idea imho.