lwarner Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 The lean angle on this pic is ridiculous. I'm not sure what track this is... Catalunya?, not sure. Any guesses about their corner speed? I was also kind of curious if anybody had a guess as to how many G's they'd have to pull to lean it over that far and pick it right back up. Hahah, it looks like Lorenzo is dragging his whole thigh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubbard_28 Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 In this pic it looks like Lorenzo is dragging his elbow. They have elbow sliders on some of the suits now. It's sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwarner Posted August 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 Yeah, I'm pretty sure both of them have those titanium elbow armor that Dainese uses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fajita Dave Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 I HATE it when photographers take pictures at angles like that! He must have been holding the camera about 30 degrees from level and its so much harder to really see how low of a lean angle they are getting. I don't think I could even get those tires up to temp but I'd love to ride one of their bikes even if its just for 1 lap. This is my favorite picture of a low lean angle. Its a different type of bike and I'm sure it isn't exactly faster in this case but it looks like fun . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwarner Posted August 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Hahah, nice pic, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam06 Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Yep, they use sliders on their elbows....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fajita Dave Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Yep, they use sliders on their elbows....... That is a great picture! I don't think he could tuck his arm in anymore then that and its still rubbing on the rumble strip. Even his head is only about a foot off the ground! That has to be an interesting view of the track, I wonder if he can even judge his exit by vision or if he just goes for it knowing its there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwarner Posted August 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 I guess this is a little off topic, but I love those gloves. I thought maybe I'd get a pair but they were over 400 bucks! That's enough for gloves AND new rubber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 That rossi picture is very deceiving. The curb is very raised in relation to the part of the track that he is riding. Look at the angle change where the curb begins. He would not be in anything like the same position, if the curb was say, just painted, and the same continuation of the track he's riding on. Still an amazing picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonzilla Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 It's not deceiving, it's amazing lean angle. The track is banked. His knee is lower than his contact patch. Plus the GP bikes are thinner and taller providing the ability to lean much farther than ours can. It was my screen saver for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobie Fair Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 great picture, thanks for putting it up. CF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybird180 Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Fajita Dave- What's the record? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fajita Dave Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Fajita Dave- What's the record? Haha actually I have no idea. I just found that picture on another forum . I looked for it but I couldn't find it anywhere. It looks like a good 75-80 degrees to me though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonzilla Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Fajita Dave- What's the record? Haha actually I have no idea. I just found that picture on another forum . I looked for it but I couldn't find it anywhere. It looks like a good 75-80 degrees to me though. I don't think it can be that far. Pedrosa gets over 65 degrees, and he probably gets over farther than the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobie Fair Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 OK, anyone catch the GP this weekend--another Lorenzo high side I saw. Now, what does he keep doing that keeps pitching him over the bars? (I have an opinion). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kane Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 OK, anyone catch the GP this weekend--another Lorenzo high side I saw. Now, what does he keep doing that keeps pitching him over the bars? (I have an opinion). Cobie; I thought it was because he damaged his front brake when he ran into the rear tire of Nicky Hayden's Ducati and went into T1 without complete control of his bike...No? Rainman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozfireblade Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 I thought after he bumped nicky that he had a bit of a moment slid the rear end it gripped then lowsided the front into the grasss then kitty litter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwarner Posted October 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 OK, anyone catch the GP this weekend--another Lorenzo high side I saw. Now, what does he keep doing that keeps pitching him over the bars? (I have an opinion). Death gripping the bars? Poor throttle control? The suspense is killing me!!!!!!! Watched it though, sorry to say it was one of the less interesting races I've seen. P.S. I think the poster that mentioned the 80-ish degrees of lean angle was referring to the pic of the motard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonzilla Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 It wasn't a highside. Lorenzo knocked into Hayden going into one and the bike shuttered. After that the bike slid sideways kinda, and then it slammed him to the ground. He wouldn't have been able to finish anyway. There had to be something wrong with the bike for it to do that. I'm thinking it's the TC. Rossi had more control of the bike, and Stoner was sliding all over the place. He had control over the bike, but that's how highsides do happen. I'm thinking Lorenzo rides with his TC dialed way down. It doesn't look like it though from watching him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybird180 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 It looked to me that after he hit Hayden (Lorenzo's left/ Hayden's right), that he tried to keep going. He steered and QT'd it down to his right knee. A few moments later, there were sparks and he was off the bike. My theory is that he had a malfunction with the front end, which caused the collision and subsequent lowside. It didn't look like a typical power-slide on the side of a cold tire. Once he was down, there was a violent tumble and considering the bike was in front of him and sliding away from him also confirms a lowside. I think the bike then snagged on the curbing and basically self-destructed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobie Fair Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 OK--have a look if you can at the video. Next, what's a highside? Back end slides, then hooks up and snaps back in line. Lorenzo hits Nicky, then turns the bike in, all OK for a little while. Then the back end comes around as the first thing, then hooks up and pushes the front, min-high side, no? I don't know about Lorenzo's bike, you guys can add that info here for all, that would be good. But Lorenzo has had a number of highsides in the past 2 years, hasn't he? Has Rossi had that many? Same bike and tires (more or less). CF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybird180 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 I may watch it again. But I thought the front went away from him first. The bike sort-of went sideways in a weird way, which is why I was thinking mechanical malfunction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbtriple Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Apparently when Lorenzo hit Nicky, his front brake rotor splintered (carbon) and he had no brakes. So he thought he'd try and make the bend, couldn't, and that was the end......gee hayden has had some bad luck with bingles, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwarner Posted October 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 If you have access to it, watch the vid. It was a highside! It was funky looking and I can see why it could look like a lowside, but (and I may regret saying this) I'm positive it was a highside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acebobby Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 OK, anyone catch the GP this weekend--another Lorenzo high side I saw. Now, what does he keep doing that keeps pitching him over the bars? (I have an opinion). OK Cobie, I will have a go at this! Just watched the twist 2 DVD and got the idea from that, as good a rider as lorenzo is (I'm a big fan) it looks to me that whenever he gets into trouble he does not use a smooth roll off with the throttle! I have read the book loads and I missed this, associating rolling off with chopping the throttle, it seems that good throttle control works both ways, rolling on smoothly and when necessary rolling off smoothly! Bobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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