Cobie Fair Posted November 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Cobie;Having smacked more than one Helmet on the track the question I have is does the extra foam installed inside change the position of the helmet on your head? I found some real comfort in the way my Suomys protected my bouncing head (at least I think it did) in my get offs so that would be a concern. Having said that, there is no question that at full tuck it is hard to see way up the track without turning my head sideways. Rainman Rainman, For sure it changes the position. I'm not a helmet rep, so only my opinion on this. A little extra foam I wouldn't think would be an issue, and the little bit of position change (as a trade off for actually being able to see) I'd think worth it. Heads are all built different, helmets that many find perfect to wear, don't work for me at all, like the last time I tried an Arai on--wrong shape for my head (sure it could be adjusted though). In fact, Arai often has a display at the big races and I think they do customize the fit. Next time I see them, I'm going to see what they do to alter the fit. CF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1DER Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Yes, but the foam that you suggested to put inside really helped. I placed two layers of it and it's fine now. I think my helmet size is not right for me. I have a scorpion exo-1000 (Large). I put on an Arai medium one time when I was window shopping and it was perfect. So I think it's the size of my helmet. Patrick, Go to each company's website for their sizing charts and then measure your head (they tell you where their measurements were taken, i.e. above the eyebrows and ears). Each company can vary completely. I bought my 10 year old son an extra small from AFX and I can wear it! Then I bought an AGV in medium for myself and it fits perfectly. (I guess my son can grow into it!). Also, read their instructions on fit, then go try them on before you buy one. They all generally recommend a snug fit with no lateral movement (the helmet and your scalp and skin should move together), its strange at first, but you don't want your lid coming off in a get off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spthomas Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 For sure it changes the position. I'm not a helmet rep, so only my opinion on this. A little extra foam I wouldn't think would be an issue, and the little bit of position change (as a trade off for actually being able to see) I'd think worth it. Aha! now we know why Simoncelli keeps his hair long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobie Fair Posted November 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 For sure it changes the position. I'm not a helmet rep, so only my opinion on this. A little extra foam I wouldn't think would be an issue, and the little bit of position change (as a trade off for actually being able to see) I'd think worth it. Aha! now we know why Simoncelli keeps his hair long Did I already say this--has anyone noticed how Rossi's helmet fits him, how it sits on his head? CF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just_Love_Riding Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Hmmmm, interesting. I also have the problem with my helmet sliding forward when I am low on my bike, effectively not allowing me to see as much as I would like and slowing me down around corner. The back of my helmet hits the hump on the back of my leathers pushing the over my eyes. I don’t see why the designers are not able to remedy this problem, by either opening the top of the visor area more or contouring the back of the helmet more or both. I don’t know why I didn’t think of adding foam into the top of my helmet. Sounds like a simple but effective way around it. I will be going out to buy foam now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kane Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 The back of my helmet hits the hump on the back of my leathers pushing the over my eyes. I don’t see why the designers are not able to remedy this problem, by either opening the top of the visor area more or contouring the back of the helmet more or both. JLY; It sounds like your helmet is too big! Mine does not move at all (at least not that I can detect) and when I rode with ones that did I found it terribly unnerving. Rainman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avid Motorcyclist Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 I never noticed anything wrong with my Shoei X-11 until I applied the hook turn in the bowl at NJMP's Lightning course. I must have been employing the technique correctly because as I neared the exit/second apex I had a serious hard time seeing anything but asphalt! I am going to try something that allows me better vision at my next event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTNYC Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 Cobie, I will be at Thunderbolt next Monday and Tuesday. Do you think you could bring some foam for me to try on? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwarner Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 Did I already say this--has anyone noticed how Rossi's helmet fits him, how it sits on his head? CF There's a lot of his forehead showing...? Is that basically what you're getting at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTNYC Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 sorry for the multiple posts... I kept getting error messages when I tried to post yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfoster Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 I had this exact problem (Shoei RF1000) at the CSS at Thunderbolt last week. They had foam for me to try and it made a HUGE difference. Hard to pick reference points when you can't see them! Here is a good shot of Rossi with his forehead showing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeflydive Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 This simple tip has improved my riding experience...I'm not looking at the top-inside of my helmet anymore!!!I The increased visibility has improved my sense-of-speed and identifying reference points while riding through tight/technical corners. It took me a few days to get used to the new material while the foam-blocks broke down a bit...but its been great in my Shoei and AGV lids. I'm Sorry for reviving an old thread, but I wanted to say thanks. Cheers, Majdi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobie Fair Posted February 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 This simple tip has improved my riding experience...I'm not looking at the top-inside of my helmet anymore!!!I The increased visibility has improved my sense-of-speed and identifying reference points while riding through tight/technical corners. It took me a few days to get used to the new material while the foam-blocks broke down a bit...but its been great in my Shoei and AGV lids. I'm Sorry for reviving an old thread, but I wanted to say thanks. Cheers, Majdi Glad to hear it and sure don't mind keeping this in view . We had some real success with this at the last school: a very experienced student was suggested this, and he was stunned at the difference. One thing we have noticed is it is often the "cause" for poor body position. CF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khp Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Am I an old fart for noticing that we talked about this some time back? At least the thread will find you another picture with Rossi's forehead /Kai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugget Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Ah, this is an interesting topic. Now that it's mentioned - I do recall seeing lots of racers with their chins very prominently showing out the bottom of the helmet... (helmet tilted backwards on their heads). It's something I've always been mindful of, so I've never had a problem with the helmet... But how far does everyone tuck down? How close is your chin to the top of the tank, does your helmet go down into the little cutout area on the top of the tank? I don't usually tuck down as far as possible because I found it was just a lot of effort! Add to that the fact that the bottom half (or more) of my vision would be obscured by the bottom of the screen - made things kinda scary. So I just stick with a 'comfortable tuck' most of the time now, chin/bottom of helmet maybe 10-15cm from the tank. I never even considered tilting my head while tucked (thank goodness!) - that would be a bit confusing wouldn't it!? I bet the people who were doing that sure were glad to find a fix for their vision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobie Fair Posted February 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 We saw this again at the track, and in this case it helped his position on the bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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